That Time Disney Remade Beauty and the Beast

That Time Disney Remade Beauty and the Beast

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So. For some reason I get more requests for this movie than for any other movie. Okay. Jean, Cocteau's, 1946. Black and white classic labelled, a la bete famously, opens, with an appeal to viewers asking them to open their hearts and minds to the innocent, and magical, world view of a child to, allow themselves to believe that castles can be enchanted, and that yes the heart of a man can beat beneath the hide of a beasts well I did some digging and it turns out that the live-action Beauty, and the Beast originally, had no Maj to Cocteau's opening for their 2017, remake of the original Disney, animated classic it, said, we, invite you to open your hearts and minds to the magical world view of pedantic, nitpickers who point out plot, holes and fairy tales which we are now countering, - apparently here's, a movie for you guy who kept, pointing out that according to math that prince was only 11 when he got turned into a beast that's pretty messed up right that's not logical open, your heart like the pedantic cool pines don't forget that the monarch an disappeared, blood holding. Wow. I, hate. It so, apparently the intent with the remake of Disney's animated classic Beauty, and the Beast was to respond to every bad faith criticism, lobbed at the original like, well, why were the servants enchanted, - they didn't do anything wrong and Belle's. Not feminist, enough make that she reads an active-active, transgression. Against the patriarchy. Teaching another girl to read isn't. One enough and, give her an invention subplot, that goes nowhere, effectively, Disney, has gone and made a movie which differs in content, only in that it appears to exist to appease the pedantic books of YouTube with their decades of bad faith criticism, and forever. Having enabled, that atmosphere, of pedantic degree that led to the creation of a film that goes out of its way to address the plot holes of the film that it is based on uh I. Will never cease my penance walk, but. I am going to complain about this movie for a really long time so strap in it's, important to contextualize this, movie in the trend that it is the current apotheosis of that being Disney, live-action remakes. And these, live-action, remake seem, to pose themselves not as simple remakes but as responses, to criticisms, of the films that they are remaking for. Maleficent it posits that Maleficent was misunderstood, and that the narrator of the original movie was unreliable, for The Jungle Book it posits that hey maybe Shere Khan had a point and Mowgli, is dangerous but for Beauty and the Beast that response seems to be fixing plot holes that weren't actually problems, or plot holes to begin with. And. You may be asking yourself is this really an over long nitpicky, complainy video complaining, about how over long nitpicky, clickbait film criticism has influenced, the actual text in the current trend of live-action, Disney remakes. Yes. We. Begin not with the bad bet you gothis party started Maleficent, nor the original animated buting the beast or even the evil genius current, CEO of the Disney Company aka, boringly, competent, daddy Bob Iger it starts, with the Robert Moses of the Disney Company daddy, of daddies Michael, Eisner because, important to remember is that Michael Eisner was Bob iger's, mentor, in the 1990s. And early 2000s, and that the reason I gir had the opportunity, to enjoy this long run as CEO of the Disney Company was because of his unwavering Failte, to the Regina Georgia Hollywood, CEOs, Michael. Eisner in a 1981, letter Eisner, wrote to paramount executives before, he jumped ship to become CEO of the Disney Company he, pinned what is widely considered to be his ethos, and possibly the most 1980s, thing ever written we. Have no obligation to make Arts at Eisner we have no obligation, to make history we have no obligation to make a statement but, to make money it, is often important, to make history to make art or to make some significant, statement in order to make money we must always make entertaining movies, and if we make entertaining movies at times we will reliably make history art a statement or all three we may even win awards this was an ethos carried through to his time at Disney that said Eisner, was also super cognizant, of the value of brand prestige, and ironically, in his earlier years he was super resistant, to the whole concept of releasing, Disney classics under VHS as this, he worried would lower the prestige, of the, brand but.

Boy Did he change his tune when Pinocchio the first released to VHS because, it was considered lower rung among the classics, sold, out of its first run lesson. Learned here repackaging. Disney classics is a safe lucrative, bet this, would reach its apotheosis with the downright parodic, phase of direct-to-video, sequels, producing, such classics, as The, Hunchback of Notre, Dom to. The. Fox in the Hound 2 and, Cinderella. 3 a twist in time the. Best one of this lot yes I will stand by that I have seen them all because of pink whereas I have. During. This era we also saw the expansion, of Disney Renaissance properties. Adapted, for Broadway this became a trend that continues, to this day, and the 90s we saw Beauty and the Beast flanking, and Aida. Yeah. That was a Disney, joint okay. But. The thing that we are presently, living through was not the first attempt at repackaging, Disney classics for live-action seeing, the success of properties, like Beauty and the Beast on Broadway and VHS, sales Eisner. Took an eye towards live-action, remakes of Animated, Classics beginning. With the Jungle Book in 1994. This. One had a sexy. Mowgli but. Eisenerz real event, was 101. Dalmatians, in 1996. Starring Glenn Close I've no use for babies. Both. Of these movies did okay. 101. Dalmatians did, really pretty well raking in 136. Million in domestic box office grosses, and unleashing. An avalanche of plush dogs and other merchandise and eventually. Garnering a sequel during, this period they were also remakes of old live-action, movies like The Parent Trap starring, Lindsay Lohan which, unexpectedly, grossed 92, million dollars proving, that there was indeed a market for this sort of thing but, these were not huge, successes, and after, event movie Pearl Harbor, was eviscerated by, critics, iseman became much more bearish, on the whole concept of event, movies in general movies. Like The Jungle Book 94, and 101, Dalmatians didn't really start a trend where, newer films like Maleficent, and Cinderella, of 2015. Did. The. Final element to the formation of this version, of Beauty and the Beast is one we can't really pin on Eisner and that, is the recent trend for Disney movies to make meta textual commentary on, the Disney Company and the Disney brand in general it's, there in Moana if you were a dress and you have an animal sidekick, your, princess, it's there an enchanted. Like, the, whole movie and dear. God, frozen. Audiences. Love it when Disney knowingly pokes fun at itself do, animals, talk to you no boy are you Paul is it no cursed, no kidnapped. Or enslaved no are you guys okay shake on police and they, really loved it with Beauty and the Beast didn't, they I'm talking to a candle, yah thanks. I hate it Isner, story as CEO of the Disney Company is very much a mixed bag he, oversaw the success, of the Disney Renaissance yes, but, he was also responsible for a string of acquisitions, and bad ideas which could, take up many many many episodes but I'm not going into here, Iker certainly, took to heart eisenerz wisdom, of not being obligated to make art or history but, to make money which, manifested, as safe investments, but Eiger invests, safely, and much, bigger than eyes nor ever did as a result Disney, stock has quadrupled in, value since, eisenerz departure, in 2005.

I Guarante when t 18 is able to execute eisenerz vision of repackaging, Disney properties, for live-action without, making the brand feel cheap like Eisner eventually, would with his reliance, on direct-to-video, sequels, in effect, Eiger has mastered, what the Disney Company refers, to internally. As brand, integrity, and moreover, the Disney Company under, Eiger has figured out the secret ingredient it's. Not enough to just do a live-action remake of a beloved classic starring, Glenn Close new. Live-action Disney needs to be meta textually, responding, to some criticism, of either the Disney Company the, brand or of, the property, it is remaking. So. Now we know how we got here let's, take a look at what we got. In. My grand tradition of, flaccid, attempts to be balanced, I'm, going to first try, to list the things I don't hate, but. I gotta be honest there's not much here at. Least Phantom of the Opera had Patrick, Wilson and Minnie Driver okay I am going to find some stuff I don't hate let's see there's gotta be some stuff okay Lumiere and Cogsworth have, a different, dynamic in the remake than they do in the original rather. Than them squabbling, and Cogsworth constantly, trying to restrain Lumiere here, they don't really fight and Cogsworth, wants. To stand up to the Beast you can't talk to us like that I forbid it, and Lumiere's, kind of trying to help him with, that of, course that doesn't, really go anywhere. Cogsworth. Never does, stand, up to the Beast so it's an art that is, added, with, no payoff, it's, different I mean it's not good but I guess I don't hate it I hope but we still had to no homo. This. Is hard um, - ch and Audra, McDonald, love those two don't. Love the characters, they are superfluous, and add nothing but, I always love me some to ch and Audra. McDonald, should just be in more everything, so, sure. This. Owl. Damn. That is a sweet, owl love. That owl oh and, Kevin Kline okay this is actually one change I unambiguously. Like like turning Maurice from an infantilized, man baby into a gentle, sensitive clock maker and Klein's sells it that actually, really really works. The. Original, DVD release of Beauty and the Beast in 1991. Included a commentary, track in which directors, Kirk wise and Gary Trousdale and, producer Don Hahn were already audibly, frustrated, with people trying to over explain and outsmart the logic of an enchanted castle the most relevant bit that sticks out in my mind is where they try to explain or rather kind, of infer they shouldn't have to explain the, internal, logic of be our guest every, piece of flatware, doesn't necessarily, have a corresponding. Like. It's an enchanted castle, ergo. The stuff in it is also enchanted, that doesn't mean that everything that moves in the castle has a one-to-one human, equivalent but. Because one of the selling points of this movie is the over explanation, of everything everything. Needs to be explained, in the dialogue I'm talking, to a campground, there please. Yep, that's weird lad you pointed out how unlikely, that is so I can take off the million, layers of logic, Armour in which I have adorned, myself so that I can suspend my disbelief we. Can't leave things to people's imaginations. Then they might go make an internet about it see, it's stuff like this that legit, sucks the magic out of parables, and fairy tales but it needs to be explained to modern audiences that no not every object in the castle has a human corollary, hello. What's. Your name. Like. Madam crap hair the helpful toilet No what's. Your name ma, belle your dress it is stuck in your belt oh ho, ho don't worry it happened to me all the time back when I had legs an even more frustrating, addition is that the movie explained, that yeah, the servants in the castle see themselves as kind of on the hook for the beasts being, a jerk, you see when the master, lost his mother and, his. Cruel, father took. That sweet, lad. And. Twisted. Him out to be just like him we. Did nothing. Well. My dear, we were her kind of enablers. This, is like victims of abuse saying they had it coming and it was their fault because they shouldn't have made him mad we've, made up it and we. Must lie in it I understand. That movie nitpicks, dot-com, has some complaints, about us being punished, for the actions of a ten year old, but, you see my idea there's, a perfectly, logical explanation. For. That too this. Is another edition that gets dragged out because there's also the added element, that the beast's parents, were neglectful, and shitty and the staff knew but they didn't really do anything because it was you know an absolute.

Monarchy. But, whatever they see themselves as kind of deserving of their punishment because they didn't help the prince be better when they had a chance so we're. Klux now, thanks. I hate it but, the overwritten thing I hate the most is when the staff of the castle just explains. The plot to Belle that's. When the last pattern Falls the, master remains a beast forever and, we, become antiques. Another. Major change in this version was adding more stakes, to certain aspects, of the plot which. You know in theory fine. Instead. Of the rows falling apart now the entire castle is falling apart it's, not just the possibility, of everyone remaining as they are for all time the staff are becoming more and more inanimate, as they inch closer to Rose mageddon which I grew three more feathers and I just plucked yesterday, you know again fine not, the worst thing ever as it adds clearer stakes but, this adds to the problem is by adding these higher stakes they don't account for plot elements that they do keep from the original animated movie namely, the punishment, of basically, condemning, his entire castle, of ceasing, to exist doesn't. Really jive with his decision, to let Belle go. Go, watch. Master. How could you do that adding, more stakes around the staff adds a whole host of problems namely. Turning the beasts lack of concern for his staff from anger-management problems. And general immaturity into being actually, morally reprehensible a, set, of free. I'm. Sorry I couldn't do the same for all of you, I guess. Boss. Of the year sorry cave daddy so, adding these higher stakes kind of zaps the meaning from the moment where he decides to let Belle go it turns the beasts decision from a moment of personal growth into a trolley, problem, whose life matters, more maurice, our every, living being in the goddamn, castle, in this version the beasts letting Belle go is no longer him placing Belle's needs in front of his own but instead deciding, that maurices, life is worth more than everyone in the castle, who he has now doomed to death point. Being here that the movie wanted to up the stakes fine but, it fundamentally changed, what is supposed to be the emotional, core of the story that being beasts, growth is a person who can put other people's needs before his own because, this rubs up against the whole thrust of the story the higher stakes, kind, of necessitates. That the enchanted, objects, explain, their plight to Belle that's. When the lost packing Falls the, master remains a beast forever and, we, become antiques.

Yes Logically, it would make sense for Lumiere, Cogsworth, and mrs. Potts to do this but it diminishes what should be the emotional core of the story that Belle develops these feelings on her own terms in her own time she, doesn't do it because their, lives on the line she, does it because she falls in love with him because he begins to live as his best self not because of a trolley problem, which she, proceeds, to ignore any way because, Maurice needs help and while we're here on the topic of terrible, editing what is this. What. Was chip jumping, from, why. Is this happening, was, this scene really in need of more stakes out of nowhere. If. I can't live as a couple, died as a cop see, over explaining, everything in this case not only insults, the intelligence, of the audience which is perhaps deserved, because there is a certain sect of film commentators, who have built careers off of complaining, that their hands are not being held through the entire narrative it, also diminishes what should be a fairly simple but powerful story, about love forgiveness Redemption and, discovering, your best self but it's really hard for the Beast to discover his best self in this movie. Because. There isn't one. The Beast was a challenge, in the original movie because he had to be scary, repulsive, a huge jerk and eventually, extremely, likeable part of this is accomplished, through the medium of animation, which with a skilled animator is much better able to capture clearing, complex emotions, this, shot early on in the film shows an inner conflict in complexity, at a point the narrative where he's still the bad guy and all with no dialogue, the beasts transformation. Is inspired by wanting, to do right by Bell and Bell being kind to him in turn is earned, she doesn't become his life coach nor does she train him in the art of being nice but, she does give credit where credit is due 2017, beast is a massive, prick. And. I don't mean like he's an arrogant prick but then he learns the error of his ways like I think I think this is supposed to be charming actually, Romeo, and Juliet is my favorite play. Why. Is that not a surprise. I'm. Sorry, see. This is what is called a neg popularized. By neil strauss his 2005, book the game. No. I don't have a copy of the game lying around. The. Beast saves Belle from wolves, and while, he's out cold mrs. Potts explained that it's kind of the staffs fault he grew up to be a jerk and when he comes to and Belle professes, her fondness for Romeo, and Juliet.

Classic. Neg when I enter the loft, of dice well it might be because you abuse, them and they're afraid of you, see. This moment could have paid off by adding like one line where she explained that his staff is afraid of him and maybe, it could be a growth moment, we're going to lofty. Doings, but now. There. Are a lot of small bewildering, changes to the beasts character that are just I don't understand, why they're they're gone is this humanizing, moment where the Beast realized his anger got the better of him and he made a huge mistake. So, when he shows up to save Belle from wolves, it's kind. Of out of nowhere because. He never has that emotional, beat of realizing, he made a mistake in this, version Belle doesn't have a deal with the Beast so she can't renege on it. Which. Not only begs the question of why she sticks, around it also adds a particularly, yikes, dynamic, to the scene where she's running away and everyone in the castle is trying to imprison, her. Here. He is beating her in the face with a giant snowball. Which. He then laughs about not. Even like an ocean-like. Bed. She broke her nose then, followed by the change in the library scene in the original it follows the beasts change of heart he wants to do something for Belle that she will appreciate I've. Never felt this way about anyone, I. Want. To do something for her and the remake it's just him showing, off just. So many better things to read. Like. What. Well. A couple. Of things in here you could stop like. Check out my library, it's, pretty sweet, you. Can look at it I guess all of these small changes add up beast doesn't earn Belle's affection, so she's trying harder than he is and ends, up his king life-coach like she was in Belle's enchanted, Christmas and ends up doing all the, work. The. Beast is just a mediocre man, who fails into success by possessing, the right objects, despite never making any effort to rise to her needs and figure out what she wants, fine, I guess I'll go down to your level and this scene doesn't read that way in the animated movie we're, here the Beast actually makes an effort to use a spoon but he physically cannot but the worst thing is that these two have no chemistry, at all, it's. Foolish I suppose. For. Creature like me to, hope. Your affection. Hmm. But, all the same I never really buy that she grows to care for him it's honestly hilarious, how quickly she ghosts him when he lets it go and then, at the end when she's crying over him it's, just there's, just no chemistry here I just don't buy it and this scene is super not helped by the freakin, enchantress, barging, in on what is supposed to be a private intimate, moment, thanks for that Becky it, would have been great if he nagged her after he turned back into a man said. Something like wow your pores are much less noticeable now that I have humanized, and she's like it is you. Movie. Needs to be longer so. It pad this up with a bunch of crap that doesn't go anywhere. Some. Of these auditions are plot related a small. Example is the Rose thing a plot element from the original story Belle's, bitchy sisters ask their father for niceties where the virtuous humble beauty asks only for a single rose in the, original movie The Rose is a gift offered by The Enchantress, which then turns into the film's ticking clock the, 17 remake decides hey why. Don't we have both so. The new movie keeps the Rose and adds a backup Rose as in the original story and this goes nowhere and I hate it Belle doesn't have bitchy sisters, who ask for nicer things with the humble bill asking only for a rose here.

Belle Asks for a rose because what, can I bring you from the market. I, don't know something to do with the mom and you get to the mom food, and water is fine but don't you dare touch my roses. Oh, but it doesn't stop there because we have to over explain everything the Beast is like traumatized, by roses, I received, eternal damnation. A mini locking, hidden away as he explains, this with his words and that is why he locks up Maurice another. Truly bewildering, change is Lumiere and Cogsworth going, behind the beasts back rather than having that humanizing. Moment and having it be his decision to put her in a nice room instead of the tower I'll. Show you -. You. Want to want to stay in the tower No then follow me therefore, it is Lumiere, who told her not to go into the West Wing because, it is your own mouth so feel free to go anywhere you like, except. The West Wing. Which. We do not have not. The Beast what's, in the West it's forbidden so, there, is no tension and there's no betrayal in this scene because the Beast never laid down that boundary, which she then crossed. Why. You mad bro but. Some of the changes, are. Character. Depth. Vinny I think the intent here was to make the town sympathetic, and redeemable, which, they weren't really in the original and that was kind of the point the, original movie actually has a rather cynical opinion, of the masses. That. People are easily duped in the face of things that are strange and foreign and it doesn't pull its punches on that point but, the 17 remake does by making the town redeemable, which, isn't really earned nor is there any emotional, payoff when I don't know mrs. Potts, reunites, with mr., Potts and Cogsworth. Is reunited, with his apparent nag of a wife and then begs to be turned back into a clock. Thanks. I hate it so on the one hand there's this bid to make guests on kind of sympathetic by implying that he has PTSD a, truly, stupid and insulting, change that adds nothing look. Gaston doesn't need damage he is the high school jock everybody admires he's a hunter, he, doesn't need to be more than that he just needs to be a big handsome dummy everyone loves because he's arrogant and good-looking, because that tends to be how it happens in the real world and that's kind of the point of the movie so. The addition of Gaston, was in the war is awful. Not only does it add backstory, that goes nowhere but, as the film goes on it's less he was in the war he's damaged, so much as he like a blood psychopath, that appears to be aroused by the mere thought of violence. The. Remake has guests on giving Maurice the benefit of the doubt and it seems to be going in the direction of making Gaston kind of more reasonable, and sympathetic with, in blood. Rage so. Instead of Gaston being widely admired not, only is his characterization, inconsistent. And splotchy wonderful, book you have that. One. But you know folks, the, town is kind of skeptical towards him guess so did. You try to kill Maurice so, much that during Gaston, Lefou, is paying people to sing. Why. Had. This, why. Can't guess Don be genuinely, admired, by a small, town who is taken, in by a good-looking, guy who is secretly internally, monstrous, why, do we need to make the town both more bigoted, and more, sympathetic Vera poor provincial, town their, basic, they, take everything at face value including. Gaston Belle and the Beast that's, the whole point I hate it but the worst addition has got to be the. Book. Of teleportation. Okay. So the bells plague, mother backstory change is a suggestion that should have been killed in the screenplay, stage, because, it is so so, pointless and adds nothing so, Belle's mother was an artist and died, of plague, maurice never tells bill for some, reason, it's. Just tell me one more thing about her but. Don't worry beast has like a book that not only transcends. Space but also time, so, towards the end they go to Paris beast makes a tourism joke the, show's Alizee. Touristy. Belle, talks about the Paris of my childhood this, is the, resolve, my childhood. There's a plague masks, and. Bells like I get, it now and I guess they bond over their, mother's dying young and tragic then later in the scene in the padded wagon I know, what happened to my mom I learned, about tragic, backstory papa and now, we can resolve the conflict we didn't have and also has nothing to do with the story the addition of the space-time book, begs the question of why they never used it later hmm, if Maurice is in danger is sure would be handy if we I don't know had, some sort of device that got us from point A to point B in an instant the, worst aspect of this is that it adds inner conflict, that doesn't really need to be resolved, Bell wants to know her backstory, what, happened to mom fine.

What, Does that have to do with her learning to love the Beast what, does that have to do with the beast learning to put her needs before his own hell. It doesn't even really drive a wedge between Bell and Maurice it's not driving a conflict, between her and anyone it really. Has nothing to do with guest on it's, just jammed in there and it feels like it's yet another metatextual. Response. Where, are all the Disney moms ask the, click bait sites well here's your answer she. Did does, it add anything to the story does it enhance the characters, does it deepen any relationships. No but, it does offer a response to the complaint that Disney Princesses, have largely absent mother figures which, itself wasn't really a criticism of this story so much as a question of the broader trend in Disney movies where. Are the moms. Hey. Did you know that this movie has the first gay. When. It was announced that Lefou, would become the first out gay character. In a Disney movie the l's the jeez the B's the tease and of course all you filthy, filthy. Cues, responded, with a bra Rhea supplies. So. Yeah the LGBT, community responded. Overwhelmingly, with King, really which, got upgraded - are you kidding, me when we saw the final product, and the only out thing, about Lefou, that wasn't completely subtext. Was this, shot. Wow. Such. Gay very. Representation. So a lot of people were very validly. Annoyed that this was the best that we could get for the first out gay, in, a Disney movie well I used to be on Gaston, side but we are so in a bad place right now your tube could fall him anyway the, buffoon character, whose name translates to. The, fool you're, welcomed gays but, the worst offender, on the front of cheap safe Hollywood liberalism is Belle feminist. Icon. Teaching. Another girl to read isn't. One enough. Introducing. Beats machine. Feminism. Written by straight white men whose feminism, appears to have pretty much began, and ended with Disney feminism, from the 90s.

I'm. In distress I can, handle this. Okay. And I don't I honestly don't, want to all over he for she I think a lot of people in America and the UK miss that it's supposed to be like you know a global. Thing this, is not a dig on Emma Watson who I honestly think is a net positive and I really respect that she uses her platform to advance. A more globally, oriented, brand, of feminism. But. Somewhere. Along the line Disney decided hey, as long as we're using this movie to respond to every criticism lobbed, against, the original, we should probably go ahead and appease the feminists. While we're here so bill, helps, Maurice with his clocks. Thank. You Maurice, calls her ahead of her time I, was so. Ahead. Of the time. She. Leans in Bell attempts, to escape the castle twice, which, is so much more feminist, than the original, where she attempts, to escape a mirror once, Jesus, Christ I'm surprised, that they didn't like have bail like look directly into the camera and ask the audience if they thought she was developing Stockholm, Syndrome the biggest and most egregious, addition is of course Bell's goddamn, washing, machine a thing she invented, while also, promoting, female, literacy but. Oh no here, comes the patriarchy. Teaching. Another girl to read. Wow, it sure will be satisfying, later in the movie when this guy learns the error of his ways and that female literacy is important, oh wait. And. Then. They smash or washing she. Destroy. It I mean, at least you tried bail all. I wanted, was to teach a child to read. Too, bad that washing machine or your inventing skills will never be mentioned, in the movie again and I honestly hate, to point out historical, accuracy issues, in a Disney movie because, I do not, care I realized. That this is a sticking point for a lot of people complaining about the accuracy of the era that inspired, the film but I don't care boy. There's no depth to how much I don't care about, that, line of thinking, however. Since. The movie decides to play up the historical, aspect, of the film and decides to definitively, set the film in a period of French history that wasn't looking too bright for absolute, King monarchs. Female. Literacy was not a thing that was exactly frowned upon in this particular, culture in this particular period in history there, were lots of magazines specifically. For young women, the original Beauty and the Beast was even published in one of those magazines, so. This, was not a thing and I hate this because, not only was it not a thing it doesn't go anywhere at, no point does this guy or anyone in the town really ever have a come-to-jesus moment, and realize that like sexism, is bad and literacy is good but. Hey. Likewise. Belle being an inventor also never pays off she never like invents, a thing that helps the beast or the castle staff hell, she doesn't even get them out of the padded way at the end in the original chip bless them out you, guys gotta, try this. In this version Maurice. Does it but don't worry he uses Belle's hairpin. Lina and bill the worst thing about this is that the movie kind of implies that the bigotry of the town is a partially. Enchantment, induced which, yuck. Be. A problem that can / is solved. All they need to do is get woke. It. Adds all this crap about bigotry without, understanding its underlying causes, which are neither rational, nor enchantment. The, original MU is actually really good about this subtext, it gets that the bigotry of the town is heavily emotion, driven and not really dictated by logic, that's. Kind, of the point and that's why Gaston is so easily able to manipulate them beast will make off with your children. The. Beast will make up with your jobs, he'll come crossing over the border at night Wow these villagers. Sure do have a lot of socio-economic. Anxiety. Meanwhile, the New York Times is over here writing like 800, profiles, on anti, beast villagers, and why they still follow guests on but. In the remake the villagers see the error of their ways while. Not demonstrating. That they have actually learned anything but. Don't worry they won't be sexist, or bigoted anymore, and suddenly. He. Wasn't racist, anymore. Problem. Solved. Well. Not. Anymore. Boy, that was easy piece, for she, so. It's not even that these common bad faith criticisms, of the original movie exists and they're such popular, talking, points yeah, that is kind of annoying and basic but you know whatever but, the key to success under Eiger where it never took off under Eisner is that these live-action, remakes have to add something to their originals, make, meta commentary on, them so here we have a film that fixes plot holes that don't need to be fixed as dimension.

To Characters, that don't go anywhere tacks. On weird plot crap that likewise does not go anywhere and shoves, in some lazy hat tips to their version of progressivism, but. That this formula has proven so successful. Boy I can't wait for Dumbo now, with more emotional, support, and Mulan. But not a musical, because, China, doesn't like musicals, but. The worst thing to me is how much this new approach doesn't feel like Disney and by Disney I mean Walt who independent, of Cocteau had a similar approach to storytelling. According, to Walt Disney I do, not make films primarily, for children I make them for the child in all of us whether he be six or sixty called, a child innocence, the, worst of us is not without innocence, although buried deeply it might be in my work I try to reach and speak to that innocence, showing, it the fun and joy of living the, original Beauty and the Beast feels in the spirit of both Walt in Cocteau but the new one is just cynical. The merger with Fox Studios is another major element, here that means fewer movies, will be released in general and given, how safe these event live-action, remakes are more. Resources, will be put into far fewer productions, again, to go back to that Eisner memo we have no obligation to make art we have no obligation, to make history we have no obligation to make a statement but to make money it is often important to make history to make art or to make a significant, statement in order to make money we must always make entertaining movies, and if we make entertaining movies, at time we will reliably make history, art a statement or all three so, Disney. Under Eiger certainly makes money congrats for that but, they are no longer making history, this, is just safe regurgitation, of brands we've already seen catering, to a nostalgia, hungry market and that, wouldn't be so bad but more and more this comes at the cost of the creation of anything new and when, I gir saw the breadth of his domain he. For. There were no more properties. To remake. Parts. Of this episode were inspired by reading James B Stewart's book Disney, wore an audio book I listened to while stuck in traffic. And. I. Liked to listen to really long nonfiction like this book while stuck in traffic this episode was sponsored in part by audible, audible, has the largest selection of audiobooks on the planet and there was a lot of really great long non-fiction, that is perfect for your otherwise wasted hours stuck in traffic, audible members get a credit every month good for any audiobook you guard. 'less of price and unused credits roll over to the next month if you don't like an audiobook you can exchange it with no hassle plus, your audiobooks are yours to keep forever even, if you cancel you can go to audible.com slash Lindsey, Ellis yes it's just audible.com slashed, by legal given name to, get started, or via text you can text Lindsey Ellis to 500, 500, you can also find a link in the summary this episode was also supported in part by our patrons on patreon, thank. You as always for your continued, support we could not make over long complainy videos about the Disney Company without, viewers like you.

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I have that book on my self. really informative stuff.

Thanks for announcing that it's sponsored content. I'm legitimately scared when everything candid may be sponsored content one day. Unless you're legally obligated to say that, then yay legal system.

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Lindsay Ellis i liked this movie but hey it's my opinion

No, she's getting them to be READ TO. Isn't ONE ENOUGH?

@Lindsay Ellis Speaking of small Nitpicks and problems with dates. Either the 1991 commentary of Beauty and the Beast was not on DVD or the commentary track on DVD was not released in 1991.

please be sponsored by whatever lipstick colour and brand you're wearing, because if you @ me or whatever youtube wants, I will buy it.

What is the little dangly bit that hangs off of the teapot spout? Is it just a bit of bling? Or does it serve a function? Just curious. :) Great video, Lindsay! :D

Lindsay Ellis Hi Lindsay what do feel about the lack of colour in the remake ? That's the thing that always stood out about Beauty. Its colour.

@ryan clark "Seriously, don’t be taken by anti-Amazon memes. They’re just anecdotes and exaggerations, probably put out by Russian bots or something. Both Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk have big fat targets on their backs from Russians and right-wing interests. I’m serious. Just think about it..." the only thing i'm thinking about is how fucking stupid that comment is. do you honestly believe that every single report of workplace abuse is made by russian bots? and are you believing that because jeff bezos is against the big dumb orange man? this is why everyone makes fun of the "#resistance". yall are willing to support a corrupt billionaire to get back at another corrupt billionaire

Lent it in my local library. Good book

6:13 - 6:58 I agree with you. I hate how current Disney movies are constantly making fun of previous films just to appease the complainers who refuse to see any of the good the previous movies possess.

Lindsay Ellis Great Stuff ma’am. I gotta say I love the rumble in the beast’s voice. I love sound in today’s movies.

So there is a trend from many that if someone poses a logical criticism of a work, they must present an alternative. We have perhaps all heard the saying "Don't bring up a problem unless you have a proposed solution." However within literary (and that tradition continues to film and art) critiques, proposing the solution isn't the point. While Lindsey is up-front in her dislike for this particular property, (helping expose her own biases), many critics will often do this kind of analysis for works they like a great deal. The objective is not the denigration of the work, but rather to create a discourse about it, so that the creators or future creators can then embrace the position of the film or reject it, with a more complete understanding of the subtext and perception of the work from an educated and intellectual audience. This is (IMHO) one of the reasons for different critical schools as each emphasizes viewpoints on the text (or film or work), allowing creators and viewers both to artificially view something from the point of view of a societal element to which they themselves do not naively self-associate.

Redlettermedia couldn't destroy a paperbag, they're historically and culturally ignorant nerds who think that edgy cynicism is a sufficient substitue for societal analysis.

Lindsay Ellis ever get tired of being sardonic? I find it exhausting.

Lindsay Ellis WOW! OK!

The *one* thing that the animated film did that annoyed me was the bit with the last petal. Should I spoiler this for people who haven't seen it? I should do that, shouldn't I? Okay, extra lines right here so you have to click "view more" or whatever to see the spoilers. Alright. That should be enough lines. Spoilers incoming! In the animated film, the Beast is cursed to stay a Beast unless he can earn someone's love before the last petal falls, or words very much to that effect. He earns Belle's love. Nothing changes. The last petal falls. Nothing changes. He lies there, still a Beast, having apparently failed to earn anyone's love. Belle says she loves him. The last petal has, by this time, already fallen, but what the heck. She *said* it, so we'll hand-wave that. It doesn't count until the last petal's lost its scent, or something. Whatever. It was in time really. She saved him. Huzzah! Champagne. What's the take-away from that? Is the message from that whole movie climax that "if they *don't* say they love you, they don't, and if they *do* say they love you, they do?" That's not a world-view I'd want *my* daughter to trust. There's such a thing as a dirty, sleazy, rotten, low-down liar, you know? Oh, hey, and a nitpick: wolves aren't like that! Why must we give them such a bad reputation?

And I the only one who thought of Phelous/Old Man while watching this video?....."this Beauty is all wet...."

i never liked the original, and i did really like sideplot they added about belle's mom, but it didnt like... do anything, or have consequences, and it was more boring because they really have personalities anymore

Wow still look beautiful lindsay.

Lindsay Ellis now i want to watch Legend.

Great shill I don't live in LA but now I know I can stare into the abyss with a nice book from audible

Congrats on selling out! But like, in a good way.

dont they know when ...right. make money not art. nailed it. he murdered that castle of help for his new gf. bc whatever give us your money. & we said yes. here is our money.

Lindsay Ellis will u do a bumublebee trailer review and thoughts

With every video you produce, I like you more and more. Good job!

Watching you smile and say "Thanks I hate it" brings me joy

this may be your best yet...and the traffic (was that the 10 Eastbound?) pales what the 405 can be like.

Please do a video on Ready Player One, specifically the book. I have NO IDEA how that garbage made it to best sellers lists, and it's honestly suspicious. Especially since it had a movie deal before the book was even published.

Best part of my day :) #smitten

Playster is better than Audible because it doesn't force you to buy the book. You pay one monthly fee and can listen to an entire library.

bluehornet632 the point is that those issues DON’T need to be addressed. Seeing the story from a different viewpoint, as per Malificent and The Jungle Book, lead to interesting storytelling. Simply retelling the same story but explaining every little nitpicking detail in a children’s story does not make for compelling storytelling. It’s like reading a story to your child, and they interrupt every five seconds with a question which you then invent a long, complicated, unnecessary backstory or lampshade for. The original story gets lost.

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Lindsay Ellis Oh yeah, Papa Mikey. Spread open that corporate influence all over the world even if Paris hates it and you weren't able to peform on the first night. Do it while Pennywise rubs me off with his balloons and Daddy Peterson hardcore penetrates my mind with his flaccid, limp Holocaust denialism. Elon is also there, but he would call me a slut if I didn't want his pods.

Disney War has been on my reading list for a long time, maybe it’s time I finally listened to it.

Honestly surprised that didn't turn into a Power Broker joke about how you can learn about the man who created New York traffic while sitting in New York traffic.

I really liked this video until you started shilling for Jeff Bezos at the end. I understand why you did. It's not a judgement but, ya'kno..

@ScarecrowRainseed Terrible comparing to what? Yes, I agree with most of issues but it is still one of better adaptations, just happen that the animation is one of the best if not the best Disney classic, so difference is noticeable.

Jeff Bezos can get bent thanks

Lindsay Ellis I am a sorta fan who enjoys or work. I agree with all the problems with this movie. It is tarrable! Although, the part where the Beast rolls his eyes at Bell for liking Romeo and Juliet. Bell, you can do better.

I also forget about one important thing. The original version also is SJW! Exaggerating stupidity of internet haters that is. Point of original written story is that girl should listen to father even if he force her to marry somone who she see as beast and not fallow true love of Gaston, because parents know better. And for clarity Beast was evil, just due to intervention of evil women (Enchantress) who make him that way and is saved by self sacrifice of his new pincushion. Gladly this anti-feminine and pro-arranged-marriage massage could be and was easily altered in version as most people know it, because it was truly horrible even at the time.

I'm not sure if I agree with arguments of Lindsay, or specifically teenage boys hating Disney for supposedly SJW stuff (what I don't really see) here. In case of Maleficent (and some other movies at the time) Disney clearly wanted to rip off Wicked, where they did failed because they instead exploit gray zones of society (and whole Wizard of Ozz is already huge gray zone with even book implying that something is off in most cases) just turn upside down whole thing and it simply didn't work (for reminder Wicked was in fact competent ruler who simply seek revenge on someone who kill her sister, and a Wizard who betray her). As I pointed many times ago, if they would make legit reason for conflict between humans and ferries what would make both Maleficent and King both a villain and a hero for opposite site, then it could be really good movie, but nop. They in fact achieve that goal in case of Cinderella where evil stepmother was revealed to be a human in the end with good reasons to be salty regard girl which was left on her head, when she barely could afford on own kids, and basically did repeat steps what lead her to that situation on the first place. It is basically Disney Wicked. Beauty and the Beast is generally pointless. Yes, whole modern girl bullshit was stupid but harmless. I in fact liked implications that Gaston has PTSD even if he was asshole to the the end. Though they didn't really do much with it anyway, so even "repair mistakes" argument is quite contrived here. I not see that "repair mistakes" was prime reason for making this movie, just side efekt of the fact that they did it in modern times. They make it for the kids and those who don't like animation to build up new fan-base. Yes, old fans didn't really cared but it is not that Disney remove old animations from existence. Sow why people really do complain here?

Another brilliant video Lindsay. I'd be really interested to hear your opinion on the whole James Gunn situation and whether you think Disney's reaction was just and how it'll impact the franchise.

Lindsay Ellis What on earth are you doing? Teaching other girls to READ?

Audibles tendrils have reached every corner of the internet... No where is safe... Drums in the deep... They are coming.

@baconOddity: Redlettermedia has nothing against Ellis. Jack has mentioned in streams that he likes her work. This video is great btw, so many things I didn't pick up on while watching the remake!

I enjoy your videos, and while I miss the sillier elements you used to employ (Dark Nella Saga!) its nice to continue to get your balanced and intellectual perpective on various movies and movie making. The audible ad didn't bother me at all. You put it at the end of your video allowing those who don't want ads to flee if they needed to. Advertisers would want it at the front or part way through. Thus you respect your audience. No shame in using sponsers as you deserve to be paid for your effort and the quality of your videos. Respectfully, A fan.

bluehornet632 She didn't say that. Her point was that they shouldn't have caved to every little shallow criticism of the original film because in trying to fill the tiny and oftentimes non-existent leaks they neglected to patch the massive ones and wound up sinking m

When considering the "meta-textual" commentary of Frozen, at least it makes perfect sense. Anna had been alone without anyone to really BE with for many years, and she got to be the age where she would naturally be attracted to guys. It's no wonder she would want to marry Hans almost as soon as they meet.

Lindsay Ellis sooo what Lindsay? You want them to do a 1 to 1 remake of their animated film??? Wtf would be the point of that? Live action IS the best place to address NON realistic points in a film, even if its a fairytale. Otherwise you’re just wasting people’s time doing a paint by numbers film, which it still sorta is.

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Lindsay Ellis they should have made LeFou and Gaston be a gay couple in a toxic relationship and have a coming out subplot where LeFou us struggling to accept himself due the time period and fearbof Gaston being an abusive mega douche and using his sexuality as blackmail; slowly but surely LeFou learns to love himself and take control of his own life and eventually turn on Gaston.

lurk qween - But Trump hates Amazon, so there must be something good about it. Seriously, don’t be taken by anti-Amazon memes. They’re just anecdotes and exaggerations, probably put out by Russian bots or something. Both Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk have big fat targets on their backs from Russians and right-wing interests. I’m serious. Just think about it...

let's not support amazon

Lindsay Ellis I can't watch a clip of Megara from Hercules without thinking about Rose Quartz from Steven Universe.

Hope I can rent it out on Hoopla

Red Letter Media can't destroy jack shit. Lindsay can explain her problems with good movies convincingly and make it seem more like a matter of taste. RLM is just shallow.

BaconOddity but some people at rlm already said they like lindsay. So good luck with that

lindsay i love you and this is one of your absolute best videos but really? do you need to sponsor a fucking amazon company? jeff bezos has billions of dollars! the last thing he needs is the cash of those damned leftists to fill his wallet further

Get that cash money, gurl!♡

BaconOddity what is your problem?

Lindsay Ellis Thanks for the info.

BaconOddity I'm pretty neutral on Lindsay but what you just said is absolutely hilarious to me

So, completely off topic, but: That chair looks exceptionally comfortable. Who's the brand and what's the model #? I'm looking for a new one for my wife for her home office.

I look forward to Redlettermedia utterly DESTROYING you one day. They will reveal you as a fraud to the whole world!

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36 hour book recommendation for a 36 minute video

How to advertise while being a leftist.

Maybe I'll see about getting a copy from a not-owned-by-Amazon company.

Really want to read DisneyWar! The section on Disney in The Big Picture has informed my thinking on the film industry (especially Disney) this year.

I also hated it so much!

Oh hey. Didn't know you were in youtube. NOW I DO.

Emma Watson is fine as Belle but they should've just let her lip-sync. See Marion Cottilard in La Vie en Rose and Rebecca Ferguson in Greatest Showman

Is it me or do so many films lately have a problem with darkness? By which I mean I CAN'T SEE A GODDAMN THING! PUT SOME LIGHTS ON!

I want that version of Beauty and the Beast playing during the end credits!!! Who is the artist?!

I begin to think once upon a time had the best modern version of beauty and the beast, seriously, Carlyle and the actress nail it chemestrywise.

Thank you for putting into words what annoys me about this movie. I have had arguments with my roommate of which one is better. My roommate (a painting turned fibers major) thinks the live-action movie is better while I (a film major) think the animated film is superior. The only thing I liked in the live action was the sets. Also the live action just threw any color theory out of the window from the original. In the original Belle and the Beast are the only 2 characters that wear blue ever, which makes Belle stand out as different from the small minded town. Live action version, give fucking everyone blue so you can't find Belle in 5 minutes

Great retrospective as always! Also, something else is bothering me....why are there so many black people in what is supposed to be a more historically accurate version of this story? I know movies need more representation, that recent study that was released shows how lacking Hollywood is in this regard. And yes, France is a very multicultural country....now. But that's in large part due to the Imperialist age, which really didn't kick up for France until Napoleon. Considering slavery in the new world sense wasn't a thing in Europe (they had enough poor people and peasants to do those jobs), there really weren't a lot of Africans at all in Europe. I could get there being some Africans in the King's court, but....why in a random provincial town? Again, this might have been ok if a little silly they didn't go trying to explain everything, but with the way the movie is it begs to be noticed.

Yaaaaasss, you put my frustration with this movie to words, thank you!! :D

We never asked for this.

Off topic but y look rlly cute in that lipstick

Disney are getting out of hand with all these live action remakes of their animated heritage! I liked their live action 101 Dalmatians remake from the 90s, and its sequel 102 Dalmatians, and I understand that live action Alice in Wonderland has its audience. However, with all these animated classics getting live action makeovers, Cinderella and The Jungle Book already having gotten it, and Dumbo, Mulan and The Lion King in the pipeline, it's getting ridiculous! The Lion King is my FAVORITE Disney movie, tied with Lilo & Stitch! The Lion King getting a live action remake is making me feel the way Ghostbusters fans did about that movie's 2016 reboot! I admit live action Jungle Book was pretty good, saw it with a friend (I offered to take her to the Ratchet & Clank movie, but she asked for live action Jungle Book instead). Live action Beauty & The Beast however felt stupid and didn't feel much like a Disney film! When I saw it, it was another case of me offering to take a friend to the cinema to see one film but the friend asking for another film: we were going to go see Moana, a cut-price near-DVD-release showing, but while in line, the friend in question declared that he wanted to see live action Beauty & The Beast! I still allowed it, but yeah, Diseny are getting out of hand with these live action remakes of their animated heritage. Live action Lion King sounds like it could be the 2nd worst movie of 2019 (behind the Dora The Explorer movie!). If Lilo & Stitch is next in line for the live action treatment I WILL SCREAM!

The end gave me LA Commute flashbacks, eugh!

Okay so it seems like I’m the only person who genuinely liked this movie. I won’t say that it’s better than the original cuz it’s not. Not at all. I still think it’s good though.

I enjoyed Maleficent because it offered a different spin on the original instead of just remaking it and gave a lot of much-needed character development (and I admit I found the original film fairly forgettable). Other than that, I've not watched many later live-action remakes because it sounded to me that they were basically straight remakes. And the remake of Beauty and the Beast... well, the CGI characters are incredibly off-putting. What looks great hand-drawn doesn't always translate well as CGI. Maybe I'm just bummed by Dinsey's apparent approach to wanting to remake every one of their films as live-action. It feels like they're completely undermining their classic animations. EDIT: Also I guess I'm just sick and frustrated over the number of remakes, reboots, whatever in recent years. If the first effort was bad, yeah, I guess there's no harm in remaking. But if it was good and widely praised, why mess with it?

Thank you so much for nailing it. I watched this movie and finished with no emotional buy-in but I couldn’t figure out why. I chalked it up to just basic nostalgia overwhelming the reality of the original- was it really that good or am I biased? But it was more and you pointed those “more” items out. The internal conflict we see throughout the original is the selling point of the story. Leaving those bits out forces the audience to mentally fill it in and that’s just wrong. I’m sure this movie would have tanked if not for the popularity of the source. Thank you so much!

AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAID

The background music is better in the older version

Unpopular opinion: Emma Watson is irritating

Everything looks less childish when it's animated in 2D... especially movies that have talking animals and objects idk why but it's kinda cheesy this way cause it's like they are trying to make us "believe it's real" or something idk it's stupid

Great video. What is it about modern Hollywood that makes them ignore basic concepts like show don't tell, payoff and subtext? I'd swear most movies these days are made from first draft screenplays..

I never even saw the remake for the sole reason that I had a feeling it was going to suck. And this video just proved my suspisions. It feels good to be right.

I always thought the Beauty and the Beast nitpicks were funny, but not actual changes that needed to be made to the story. At the end of the day, we're still talking about a fairy tale that deals with fucking magic.

Hey now here's something else nice you could say "The costumes look pretty" and uh ... uh.... That's all I got.

OH MY GOD, THANK YOU!

Watson wasn’t a good choice for the role on top of everything else. She’s a better every woman than a fairytale heroine.

Next, they'll be remaking "Die Hard" because "John McClane should've recognized Gruber's voice straight away!"

I'm sure I'm not the first person to mention this. But since when did 17th century France have black people living normal peasant lives? It was all white then. You can probably find many villages there that are all white now.

I was really hoping that Belle being a inventor would go somewhere. Was so angry that it didn't.

Waiting for the criticism on the acting. Did anyone else notice how emma watson was god awful, so forced.

For me it was a casting faux pas. Beauty and the Beast is my fav Disney movie and I credit a lot of that to the amazing voice acting in the cast. The emotion, humor and depth of the animated show outshone the live action in nearly every way.

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Now some viewers might not like this video stating that all you are doing is bitching and bitching about the movie, BUT.... I'M DEFIANTLY NOT ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE!!!!! Beauty and the Beast is my favorite Disney movie involving a princess, so that meant I had very high expectations for it. About 10 minutes into the live action movie, I wanted to walk out of the theater so bad but I decided to sit through it and think about hanging myself because this live action movie of this Disney movie in my opinion is the worst! This remake was just a slap in the face as a hard-core Disney fan. Plus, the real reason why the Disney company is going the live action route is because, they are just trying to get easy money grabs and because they are getting so fucking lazy with their work! I stand my ground on my reasons why I dont like this version and there is alot of points you mentioned that I certainly agree with, but the one other thing I didnt hear from this video was that id Disney really wanted to make this live action popular to the Disney fandom, then why cast an actress who is British rather than someone who is French? Because you know, Beauty and the Beast takes place in France. Dont get me wrong, Emma Watson is one hell of an actress, but they only took into consideration that she looks similar to the 1991 version of Belle. So in conclusion, instead of watching this version again, I'd rather be put on the electric chair and die. Rant over :)

This video was fucking good. Thanks for posting. Quality insights. Subscribed.

So many people around me just seemed to blindly like this movie. I'm happy for them that they enjoyed it, but you have so perfectly articulated my frustration with this movie. And while all of these technical criticism are all one hundred on the mark, it really all just comes down to the fact that this movie made me feel nothing. It used most of the same scenes and dialogue from the movie I love so much and yet, nothing. It seemed to suck all of the emotion, power, and magic out of the tale as old as time.

PEDANTIC PEDANTIC PEDANTIC ! Ever since that episode of Family Guy everyone has been over using that word

I'm a bit confused about your dislike of Gaston being traumatized as part of his character foundation. I thought you were a fan of character nuance, and Gaston being just a dumb handsome meathead with limitless narcissistic ego and self confidence is not very nuanced. That's a flat character. Execution aside, trying to give a villain motivation through something like past trauma or even just suggestion some more reasons for their behavior is usually a good thing. I think I get it. PTSD is a serious real life affliction which impacts a lot of people in very real and depressing ways, and putting it onto a 2-dimensional character like a hat seems like a mockery of the disorder and those afflicted. But as much as it's important to show nuance and depth to fictional 'good' characters, it's also important to show that depth in 'bad' characters. Why is the evil rich old white man evil? Why is the school bully a bully? Why is Carries mother insane? Why is Gaston such a massive tool? I think it's okay to try to give an in universe explanation for why the bad people are bad, because in the end we should try to understand their motivations so we can recognize issues and combat them to prevent more people getting hurt or becoming 'bad'. Also; the thing about girls being scorned for appearing intelligent or wanting to read is not unreasonable in a small rural village in the 16- 17- or 1800's. Some even claim that it happens all over the world to this day.

this is the first youtube video i've seen featuring the phrase "thanks i hate it" and i'm kinda glad that it's lindsay

I'm so glad that my wife and I aren't the only people who felt this way about this trainwreck.

And let us not forget that they were basically trying to appease the whole internet by casting Emma Watson as Belle, since she was everyone's dream cast. Which, to be honest, in and of itself is not a bad thing, it would be amazing if movie creators took note of popular dream casting choices of "the internet", whenever applicable of course. But in light of all the things Lindsey said in this video, sadly, it stops being a purely nice gesture, but a marketing move made to rake in more money and appeal to more people, so that they are ready to give their money. This is why with capitalism we can't have nice things!

I Think That Beauty And The Beast 2017 Had Good Ideas But A Bad (And By Bad I Mean Awful) Execution Of Those Ideas. I Think It Was Useless To Remake The Movie And That The Original Should Be Left Alone. Emma Watson Cannot Sing. Shes A Good Actor But Shes Not Belle. Its Like Making Chris Pratt Batman It Just Does Not Fit. The Beast Is Bland And So Are The Appliences. I Likes Evermore And Gaston Bot No Other Songs. Gaston And Lefou Are Good But No Other Charecters. I Like What They Were Trying To Do With Fixing Problems But They Didnt Do It Good. I Give It A 2/10, The Worst Disney Live Action Remake. I Know This Is A Long Comment But I Just Wanted To Give My Review.

Flo from Progressive has had ENOUGH

The inventor trait bothered me too, especially since it could've been amazing if it wasn't just them shoving more perks because pseudofeminism. Belle could've been somewhat arrogant and flawed, aka more interesting. The love triangle would've had an added element of science/fantasy/village which misunderstands and hates both. Maybe tone the Belle/Clocksworth dynamic as she'd find him fascinating for being mechanical. Would also add flavor to generic stuff like 'escape from window with bedsheets because that's what women do right?' Think of a steampunk version of the story though... I'll add however that the giant snowball bit was a MASTERPIECE. In Maleficent and many other films it's always, like, good guy throws thing, we fear bad-ish guy's reaction, but he/she reacts positively and also throws a thing, everyone laughs. Here the audience laughed instead.

U R S U L A ' S C R A Z Y S I S T E R!!!

I don't get all that love for Emma Watson and her 'noble feminist' cause. She is a rich movie star that comes from a wealthy enough family and had never any big struggles in her life. Men (and women) always gave her what she wanted and I doubt that any man ever said no to her. Yet she promotes feminism and fights against the evil 'patriarchy'. Emma Watson is a hypocrite.

lynnyfee There is no love from me. I detest this ‘actress’. She ruined Harry Potter for me ( that and the screenwriters *shudder*) and when I learned she would be playing my favorite Disney heroine I was almost physically sick. Luckily sheer avoidance of this films abhorrence has helped me to remember why I love Belle and she was truthfully played by Paige

wait whaaaat? But Belle in the original show is a Strong, Independent Woman! Ok right those are dirty joke words now. She was a complete four-dimentional character (we, the audience being the 4th dimention, for Belle is sympathetic to Us no matter when we watch her, be it when the movie released or 10 years from now) with a well written agenda, personality, personal conflict (with her hometown and her role in it) and so on. She is a good Character in the original. she dont need to Become a feminist icon, i say that she rather is one, or at least an ideal towards equality. THAT IS KIND OF HER ARK! How she finds her place besides (Besides, not behind or in front of, but the equal Beside) what she once found ugly and repulsing. EDIT: Oh oh oh! Why not give her Yellow Pants! Instead of a yellow dress, to show taht she is not trapped inside the female fasion role? Because THATS DUMB! EDIT 2: He for She... is that a thing? How come thats not sexist? Im pretty sure She for He would be concidered sexist. He For She. He is For She. He is a thing For Her. It belongs to her. She commands it. This is the meaning as i read it in the words He for She. He, the Man, exists for She, the Woman. We men are not things. You ladies are not things. Why not call it He And She? Or He And She Together! Or Sexes United. well the last one would probably result in a realy akward football match. (And No americans, i will not call it Soccer. You call the sport where you mostly carry the ball and smash each others shoulders in many ways for football... in stead call that thing Soccer. Football is Football. Its a game where you play ball, with your feets)

Basically, the remake relies far too much on the assumption that the audience has already seen the original, animated film...how disappointing.

I loved the “The Game” reference, since I have the feeling that more and more hollywood romance ideas latches on to that book and its ideas. We have “strong female protagonists”, that are way to often just men with breasts, but then the male counterpart negs them into showing weakness, and romance occurs. It makes me sad, and I feel the trend is growing. Would love to see a video-essay on that!

Thank you. Never wanted to see this MOVIE.

Thank you so much for this video. I am going to direct every person who asks why I hated the movie so much to your video, instead of just saying the singing sucked.

Wow! I didn't intend to watch this whole thing at 2 in the morning, but this was amazing!

I dare say the major problem I have with a lot of the live action remakes, ESPECIALLY of what was originally an animated piece...putting in CGI where we used to have cell by cell animation...ultimately it just feels soulless...in my opinion the two biggest failures in this category are probably Ghost in the Shell (2017) and Netflix Deathnote (2017). (I know, not disney, but I think it still falls into the same category.)

Let's be honest, Emma Watson has no chemistry with anyone.

niftysheep Awful awful actress. Just......terrible

There was more spark betwen LeFou and Gaston, than Belle and the Beast -.-

Thank you for making it easier for me to explain to people why this was such a horrible film. I appreciate it and you.

gotta admit tho as much as i hated this movie josh gad did slay "gaston"

This is the first episode I've seen and I'm already in love with your channel.

I hated this movie too but at least Shape of Water was better

Honestly, thank you for ripping this movie.

Nuanced, intelligent opinions like this, that don’t rely on pleasing any one person or side, are why I have the greatest respect for Lindsay Ellis.

Your point of view is always liked. Please keep it up.

Yep. That about covers everything that bothered me.

Just a few weeks ago, I watched a video of some girl ranting about the lack of logic in fairy tale and fantasy novels...She said that she hates how so many break the laws of physics and biology. I'm sitting here thinking "Well no shit....it's a freaking FANTASY story. What'd ya expect?" This wild desire to make whimsical, swashbuckling tales more tied to reality just....sucks. These narratives are supposed to serve as escapist fantasies, to give us a world where the impossible becomes possible.

I’m pretty flaccid right now ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

I would pay twice and more to watch a movie made with the intentions of being art and make history, Mr. Eisner. >:(

I died laughing at the beauty and the beast being published in a women's magazine in a time which according to this beauty and the beast says women weren't allowed to read. The mother of all ironies!

I remember the praise Lefou got for being an openly gay character. And as a gay man (not an activist!), i feel kinda insulted that gay movie characters have to be promoted that much. Why the heck? Leave them in or leave them out but stop making such a show out of it. It has something of "Wow, they can be in movies now? Times change!" Just do it or leave it, for God's sake.

Is that Wheeljack in the background

And Starscream

You say it's not gay enough but Alabama banned it because of that. I'm not saying that's right I'm just saying marketing. (It's kills ideals)

I didn't even like the animated Beauty and the Beast. The songs are earworms, if sometimes clever, Belle is insufferably spunky and just so typical (Oh, I'm so much better than this town, I want more than this, I'm smarter and prettier and more imaginative than everyone and I want adventure, oh, no, here's an adventure and I hate and resent it because the story needs conflict), and I didn't feel the story paid much tribute to Cocteau at all. The Beast was supposed to be kind and gentle, and Belle had to overcome her aversion to his appearance in order to recognize that. I enjoyed the old French film much more.

Hank green spotted

I didn't intend to end up here. I'm not sticking around. I'm just wondering why you seem to be shining a spotlight on yourself. It seems a bit much.

Lindsay, I'm happy to see you again! I used to watch your videos all the time back on Channel Awesome. When your videos stopped popping up, I just assumed you stopped making videos. I later found out about the problems with CA (along with everyone else). But today, you were in my recommend videos with this. I honestly didn't know you were still making videos until now.

I know I'm late to the party, but it's still nice to see you still active.

This is the first video I have seen of yours, and, may I say, great work I'm totally subbing!

you don't understand the Beauty and the Beast

I love this, but I just know I recognize her from somewhere, anyone who knows from where?

Part of my dissertation is about The Princess and the Frog and The Hunchback of Notre Dame (I swear it makes sense in the essay!), but it is literally taking all of my strength to avoid typing "competent daddy Bob Iger" every time I have to write his name.

well i liked it.

Not all of The Disney Remakes are bad THE 2016 JUNGLE BOOK REMAK WAS FUCKING AWESOME I don't know why alot of people hate it? As for MALEFIACENT Angolina Jolie gave an EXCELLENT performance UNFORTUNATELY the actress who played Princess Aurora SUCKED. That's why the movie isn't very good.

This a thing that Disney and Hollywood in general doesn't learn, and aparently will never learn. Over explaining in movies kills much of what people enjoy in great stories Giving an origin to a fairy tale, or answering questions that didn't need to be answered kills the joy out of fairy tales Explaining how does the force work, and where it comes from, makes it less special in Star Wars (that and all the shuved political agendas in the new ones)

Thank you for addressing the real issues. Changing the past is not a way of progression. It's a complete cop out, and one could argue productive. We can't just remake threw last 60-1000 years of our human history just because we weren't doing the best thing before now. It's solutionism and censorship at krs its worst. Thank you for being bold enough to take a hard stance against it and highlighting how harmful it is.

That Flight of the Conchords clip made my heart sing

I REALLY FUCKING HATED THE 2017 REMAKE OF BEAUTY AND THE BEAST UNFORTUNATELY MY FAMILY LOVES IT

What was that Beauty and the Beast remix at the end? XD

I think that adding feminism to a remake like this brings the same problem as adding any other extra plot, it feels short because there is no time to flesh it out because there is already an original plot, so if you flesh out the extra plot you take out of the original. Therefore the movie sacrifice the original plot for the added plots but there were so many that those plots also felt short. But I feel bad for the movie because they tried to give peoplo what they want and that was the reason for the movie being so awefull. I guess the lesson here is don´t give people what they want because they are going to bitch any way and your movie is going to be picked apart and you deserve it for having money as yor only goal.

There was totally a human toilet in the deleted scenes

I think one thing you are not considering (7 minutes in the video, so maybe you ARE) is that there is a trend in films aimed to kids on making CONSTANT reference to pop culture, current events, and things that are relatable to the average movigoer (i.e. shit the've probably seen on the news or other recent films). In Disney, this translates to self referenciallity because they are themselves culturally impactful. Btw, this is something I hate about most kids films. How they are always about the target audience life, they don't expect the target audience to go a little bit out of their confort zone by thinking how it would truly be to live in a foreign country, past time, future time, etc.. it is just "everybody everywhere has, had and will have the same values, culture, way of talking and problems as the average movie goer"

Weird decision to put that stupid Eisner quote in twice and read it out loud both times in a video thats only 36 minutes long. still, I really liked your take on this

I think what happened with the Beast's character was that they made him "classier" than the original by giving him that expensive education and taking away the hulking brute aspect of his design, but then in so doing they lost a lot of what made him charming and redeemable: his awkwardness, the clumsy way he slowly (eventually) tries to figure out how to be nice to this girl, and needs a lot of help from the castle servants to figure it out, his general incompetence (and insecurity around that incompetence) and genuine, though deeply buried, desire to do better. If you make him genteel, you remove any and every excuse he ever had to be such a cad. He knows better. He is *choosing* not to do better. As for the servants, I think the big mistake everyone makes with the original is assuming the fairy was meant to be a benevolent figure. Like, fairies -- the old-fashioned kind -- are scary af. They're kind of like the Greek gods, but with less incest and more bizarre and cruel curses you have to bleed and sacrifice to escape. I just kind of figure she was pissed the Beast blew her off and didn't really care about collateral damage.

so... let's think in a historical context for a moment: if her mother died from the plague it had to be 1720-1721 when that happened, the last plague outbreak that was seen on Paris, this of course considering the clothing and all, let's asume Belle has 20 yo and we find ourselves on 1740-1742 in the beginning of the Age of Enlightenment . Of course Le Fou couldn't be so explicit gay and Belle knowing how to read as a normal villager in a comun small village where only some men knew how to read was really odd, her invents were really odd too....

To be honest, I can understand why the beast let her go. I mean, how is she going to fall in love with someone when they kept her trapped in her room while her own father died alone. I would think that would breed resentment not love, which would have foiled the plan anyway. And sure the last petal falling wouldn’t have killed him, but remember that he would be a beast forever, completely alone without even his servants, and forgotten by time doomed to die alone. Sure he lives, but it’s not like that means he got off easy. Plus now he would spend the rest of his days trapped in guilt knowing that he failed everyone who had counted on him. I think it was more the beast accepting that he had done too little too late and that fate had now made the choice for him. As far as the “the prince was 11 when he was cursed” thing, Disney brought that issue upon themselves. There was no time limit in the original story because, much like for sleeping beauty, the castle became frozen in time. People weren’t asleep in this story, but magic made sure that time did not pass for the occupants of the castle. So if the prince was cursed at twenty, he would remain twenty until the curse was broken. Or at the very least time moved very slowly. That’s my take anyway.

This must be one of your best videos yet! I absolutely loved it! So thankful for your content, style and humor! X

You never mentioned this, but those accents are horrible. Fake cockney, bad French, overdone aristocratic English, they're like nails on a chalkboard! I never felt the need to watch this movie and I certainly won't now!

One piece of the remake that actually got me excited to see it was the visuals. As an art nerd, I love looking at art from the french baroque and rococo eras. That being said, the trailer focusing how the intricate and stunning architecture of the castle turned from bright, warm colors to dark, cool colors (all to the score from the original) made my little artist's heart leap for joy. Of course, that's really the ONLY thing I enjoyed from the remake. Seriously, I was so bored, when they got to the library scene I was just looking at the background. But you had some great commentary. I was a bit surprised to see something so recent on the Beauty and the Beast remake, but the hate within my soul still hasn't died so I enjoyed the video.

Lancia Stratos

The original dvd release in 1991? Talk about being ahead of its time :)

Why can’t I find movienitpicks? Like, nothing is popping up for this channel

My biggest issue with the live action is that the beast looks terrible. It’s horrible CGI and won’t stand the test of time. The ever-present problem with CGI is that as technology advances, things get outdated really quickly and pale in comparison to more recent work. The Uncanny valley will be the true curse on the castle and its inhabitants

Portraying Audible.com as a way to ease the frustration of being stuck in traffic is by far the most compelling advertisement of their's I've ever heard.

Lindsay Ellis a

et tu ^^

:) I already got the book Disney War. While this book has a wealth of info however the author has overlooked some old New York Times articles and others. as a result misinfo has abound. (particularly in the sections when the book was talking aboout the behind the scenes of The Black Cauldron (1985) An animated adaptation of the first two books from Lloyd Alexander's The Chronicles of Prydain. I've done some videos on the subject pointing out the errors and correcting them. I've been researching the film The Black Cauldron (1985) put all I could find as well as related stuff and overlooked evidence on my blog Prydain on Film https://prydainonfilm.blogspot.com/ Back in 2016 it was announced in Varity that Disney repurchased the film rights for The Chronicles of Prydain, altough as you pointed out in your video about the Beauty and The Beast live action remake, I might as well be skepical of how Disney would do adaptations of the Prydain books again.

Lindsay Ellis look I have ptsd (a different kind but still) and honestly the approach to giving Gaston ptsd is hella fucking offensive

My god, this is amazing. I might add one more point: The whole point of the first "Beauty and the Beast" was actually a bit of a meta-reaction, too. Before that film, Disney faced criticism for always depicting the "ugly" people as villains. The old film sought to remedy that problem to show beautiful people (like Gaston) could be villains, and the "ugly" people (the Beast) could be good people. The whole point was not to judge people by appearances, but how they act. The animated movie succeeded in getting that message across because it stayed FOCUSED on this one message and built a story around it. The live action movie lacked any of that FOCUS. It wanted a thousand different messages, ideas, and themes, and the story suffered for it. It's not *wrong* to have a meta-reaction in a film, just keep your focus on what is the core message of the story.

I love the tone of lipstick u r wearing

Please, never try an English accent again.

2:35 .... xD *hits subscribe button*

Not to offend the LGBTQ commnunity, but making LeFou gay was just stupid pandering. 1991 LeFou was a comedic sidekick designed to make the audence laugh, have someone Gaston could talk and explain things to and make him look better in comparison. Making him "gay" adds nothing. So Thanks Disney, I hate it.

For me this movie was done for as soon as Emma Watson decided to forego a corset in the name of feminism. It showed a lack of understanding for the era, and the fact that, at that time, corsets were used for function more so than fashion, at least in provincial towns. They were used for back support. Not only that, but they would have worn crinolines. People like to talk about how they would’ve got in the way, but let me tell you that one’s legs are incredibly free and light with crinolines, and that my back feels grrrreat. As an INVENTOR, she is going to be leaning over and things a LOT. She needs! BACK SUPPORT! Or she is going to render herself a hunchback. Am I supposed to believe that Belle also invented the BRA in this time of great development. With all that running around, surely she must have something that allows her to run around supported. A corset did that. Corsets were actually denounced by doctors for the reason that women were expected to fit an image, but these men didn’t want to KNOW about the effort they were making. It’s like how some of the dudebros of today want a ‘girl with no make up’ but god forbid they make an effort. There were actually far less women who fainted etc than history makes out. It’s also of note that the structure and look of the corset or stays would change from decade to decade. And the 1740s corset/stays was actually not very tightly strung, especially in a PROVINCIAL TOWN. Also, though, her look is just... ugly. Despite the fact that the corset wouldn’t change the look too much, it would have affected her silhouette. I am basing this little paragraph of rant on the clip at 32:55. What is she wearing?!?!? For a movie that seems to have blasted its entire budget on historical costume design (and not had much left over to writing or editing), she looks like she’s wearing a 21st century wedding dress. In the words of our lord and saviour, thanks, I hate it. P.S, Lindsay’s lipstick is ROCKING it this episode.

You sold me Lindsay...I'm sticking with the animated original.

It feels like Disney watched their 1991 version and out right forgot all the things that made that one so great when making the 2017 remake. This is coming from someone who likes Christophe Gan's 2014 version, so take that as you will.

It was such a terrible movie! :(

What the heck of this story, bioshock infinite?

This video is so catarsis for me.

As much as I love Cinema Sins and other critique Youtubes that nitpick stuff, I gotta agree with everything said here. Not necessarily that it's the critic's fault that Disney is bowing to the pressure of fixing plotholes that aren't actually problems, but that it is a problem that Disney bent over backwards to fix things that didn't need to be fixed while also trying to milk our nostalgia. I still like the remake but the original is definitely better and nothing will ever really live up to the animated Beauty and the Beast. Some of the fixes were appreciated but as a whole, yeah, they made the beast completely unlikable and ruined most of his growth. Agreed 100% on all points presented. It definitely reads like Disney not knowing what we loved about the original and so they just listen to the loudest voices who half the time are pulling things out of incredibly narrow logic for views. Like yes, by math logic beast was 11 when he was cursed. But also "10 years we've been rusting" could literally just be hyperbole. Or it could have actually been 10 years and beast was a little asshole as a kid and the witch was just a bigger dick. It didn't matter much as a kid or as an adult to me. I just loved the movie. Gotta give the remake credit for the visuals though. Even though makeup would have done a better job than CG on the beast in my opinion, the look of the movie in general is still great.

Lofu (or whatever his name was) is gay? Huh... Meanwhile, over at DreamWorks, Gobber was confirmed gay in 2014, and Voltron (SPOILERS for S7 by the way) is going to have one of their main characters in a bit of a love conflict with his ex boyfriend (/almost fiance).

The LGBT montage killed me

Thanks Lindsay you really spoke to my soul! I really hate this movie and I wished Disney would just stop butchering successes from the past

As a huge Beauty and the Beast fan, I feel your pain so so badly. Also aaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH THANKS I HATE IT

all excellent points, but what about the original design of the Beast, huh? He was so iconic, and big, and foofy

Omg I am SO glad someone else hated this version of BATB, I hated EPSECIALLY because of the library she scene, that scene in the animated version totally bridges Belle and Beast together, he figures out who she is an it shows that he is learning to love, it is a small but significant scene and the live version totally ruined it. Also a small complaint is her dress in the ballroom scene it seriously reminds me of a Halloween Belle costume.

I loved this!

Well The Lion King is at least directed by Jon Favreu sobit might be good...

I feel they will make Mulan more conservative and Lion King more liberal just so they have less to piss off either side...

Thanks for this cathartic video. I hated this film. It took me a while to watch the animated one as I was so disappointed by the live action.

32:42

With the amount of time Belle spent with Lumiere, she should have fallen in love with him. Hey, if you can love an abusive beast, then why not a charming candle???

That opening dig at film theory and sinima sins

i love you

It wasn't that bad

I hated it so much tbh... it lost all of its original magic

You're kind of a horrible person. Not totally. Just kind of.

Feel those plotholes are pretty legit

Thanks to notice how the animated respected the spirit of Cocteau's work in a golden age Hollywood vibe.

Love your stuff but 1 critique: the word salads, please turn down on the word salads, give me something to chew on. I find I gotta rewind to catch punchlines and just make out what you said.

You kinda have to get all nitpicky to pick the nitpickiness of the movie that is responding to the nitpickyness towards the original one (well, the original Disney one). And now i'm being nitpicky about it. Under how many levels of nitpickyness are we now? XD

Great French accent!

So...why couldn't Gaston use a knife? Why'd he need to shoot the Beast?

I loved your videos back when you were Nostalgia chick but heard you went full sjw. I dont see it, your content is still pretty awesome and not to throw shade but i think youre a better critic than Doug ever was. Anywho great video and keep up the good work. :)

All well put. You've given me several things to add to my litany of dislikes about this movie. :P One of the other ones being that many of the "additions" manage, among their many other faults, to disrupt the flow of the movie. At “best” the additions to the song numbers result in musical discord and visual tedium. At almost worst, inserting the “I’ve met my mother” scene in the middle of _Kill the Beast_ is mood whiplash that diminishes the scariness of the song. At the utter worst, cutting away from the death of Beast to show every. single. servant. turning into an inanimate object, and then squeezing in the sorceress (who’s inclusion in the film is its own headscratcher that also creates further narrative problems) completely disrupts what should be the most emotionally poignant moment of the movie. All in all this BatB remake was seriously poorly executed. :/

Cave daddy is also known as space daddy, thank you very much.

Brilliant!

The character design is pretty bad as well. Too realistic in all the wrong ways.

You're my fucking hero.

I love your lipstick color

*C A V E D A D D Y*

Always astonish me the depth of the analysis, thanks, i love it

I really didn't like this remake too. You didn't even get to the immense let down the two major songs were. Be Our Guest was super disappointing and Beauty and the Beast was short and ehh. I adore Ewan McGregor and Emma Thompson but they did NOT do those songs justice. Be Our Guest was super difficult for me to watch and listen to.

As much as I love the animation style of Disney Princesses in Wreck-it Ralph, I hate when Belle asks Vanellope if she was ever "kidnapped or enslaved." It makes sense for Rapunzel to ask that question, since she was kidnapped as a baby and was in charge of cleaning the tower... But Belle? Belle agreed to stay in Beast's castle to protect her father, and she was never forced to clean or maintain his castle. She was neither kidnapped nor enslaved.

good point...but hey, theyre dumb kids!

I would love to see you do a good movie..... Like Drive? Haha great work, you're such a delight to watch

To be honest, I've always been mildly fascinated about the idea of him being turned into a beast at age 11. Then again, I prefer the idea of him growing up as a human.

What's the name of the song that plays from 8:08 to 8:16? Edit: I found out it is the eurobeat version of "Beauty and the Beast"...which is a thing...and I love.

Wow, people went back to see this movie more than Christopher Robin. What have you done, Disney?

It's interesting to me that the cast is all A-List actors and performers but still sucks so badly.

After watching this, I would love to see a video covering the movie that jumpstarted the latest trend of live-action remakes: Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland. IMO, what it does in relation to its source material is as egregious as, if not more so than, the BatB remake did to the 1991 film. The idea of taking a children's story built around nonsense and whimsy and turning it into the most hackneyed Harry Potter/Percy Jackson chosen one story is one of the most unforgivable creative choices I've ever seen in a film.

I'm glad I saw this video. I knew I hated this movie, but because it was so boring, I slept through half of it, so I didn't even know the half of why I hated it. To me, what almost immediately killed it for me was watching their version of Little Town. In the animated version, this was the opening song, and the characters had so much life, and the library had more than 4 books in it. There was a whole village doing so many animated things around her while she had her nose stuck in a book and couldn't be bothered with them. In this version they were all marching slowly (SLOWLY) around, and had no energy, and had nothing interesting to do. So, I almost immediately checked out because, but held out for Gaston's song, which was almost even worse. I get that this was not an animated movie, so they weren't quite as animated I guess. But, how do you take what was probably my favorite Disney movie growing up and suck all the life out of it, and then kill all pacing, and do all the things Lindsay said in her video. I cant wait to see the live action Lion King that will obviously not be live action because you cant get lions, baboons, wart hogs, and lemurs to act. Thanks for validating that I hated it. P.S. Who are all these people hating on the animated B&B? What's their deal? It's a fairy tail about enchanted tea pots, there's not going to be much reality in there.

I’m very tired of the dead mom thing Disney does. I mean she died shortly after Belle was born I’m sure she made peace with that a very very long time ago.

Eh still a bummer when plus she has like no friends and bullied might want her mommy on rough days

THE FRENCH ONE IS BETTER.

Y'know, instead of all these plot changes, a simpler way of explaining the unfairness of the enchantment would just be to say that the enchantress is an asshole.

U have the Hank green book

Oh nice way to advertise it

It wasn't that bad.

Why did they keep the faces on the servants? In an animated media it looks cute and charming. It fits with the theme and fantasy. In live action it looks cheap and honestly a bit horrifying. It's disjointed and takes you out of the more realistic experience.

There's an obvious reason the small town is made more bigoted and more sympathetic: Trump. The average American suddenly realized that small-town folks aren't the idyllic peaceful rural paradisians sung about in country songs, and the original writers of Disney movies have been saying this for a long time (see: every Beauty and the Beast and Hunchback). They wanted to address it in the remake while at the same time being afraid of being so on-the-nose they alienate half their audience, so they made the townsfolk redeemable and likeable despite being raging bigots with torches.

so...trump is behind all of this...?

And finally, (FINALLY!) the video's done. I think I've taken nearly all day to get through it. And what a downer ending. Disney™ is a vacuum, devouring every single last bastion of commercial art there is. The acquisition of Fox™ is pretty devastating. Star Wars, Marvel, Pixar, Itself . . . all the popular stuff. And Fox.™ But in the end, all dynasties fall—people get wise pretty goddamn quick, actually. Star Wars™ ALREADY is at least temporarily on the ropes, and that's actually astounding, considering where it was just two years ago. So film-making will change to meet the desires of the consumer, who are probably a lot more savvy than anyone imagines—including and especially people like me. In the end, great art will be made. Until it isn't, and the stars burn out and everything's thrown into everlasting darkness . . . but when that comes, the Earth is gonna be gone anyway. So why worry? Even Donald Trump's fetid corpse will turn to ash someday. It's best not to think about it. Hey, what's on FOX™ tonight? Something ribald, no doubt. No doubt at all.

Thank God someone said it.

I just keep leaving comments as the video goes. When something comes up, I feel the need to type. I'm SURE it's not aggravating and pointless and stupid and endless and aggravating and pointless and stupid and-ANYWAY, how come the donkey's walking 'round and 'round in circles, being the sole instigator of force with Belle's Wacky Washing Wares™??? Is that explained? Is the donkey trained? Is it following a dangling carrot or perhaps burrito? Where'd she get the donkey? Is that explained? Donkeys and horses were pretty valuable in those days—they were like cars, trucks or Pokémon™ today. And I don't believe they're very inclined to simply walk around in circles for hours endlessly without proper motivation to do so. THIS is unnacceptable, and I demand it be explained. Perhaps not in the NEXT remake of this property, but the one AFTER that. The next one needs to explain empirically how that magical duster is possibly maintaining lift with such small feathers that don't do no flappin' or nothin.'

I feel like this kind of explains the success of Mamma Mia 2, which everyone who sees it just goes "yes! Finally fun! finally! I can just enjoy something" No one is excited for the live action movies. They're gorgeous but they're not fun and see like a lot of work for the company and for the viewer

I love this video so much.

Remember the whimsical cartoon where Mrs. Potts horrifying demonic visage was cute and did not make you want to bleach your eyes to avoid seeing it again? The live action version is scary as all shit!

Commit

I liked jungle book 94.

Lindsay Ellis,™ your content is just getting more and more serious and densely written, and I don't mean that in the negative. The Nostalgia Critic™ is still screaming about balls, I think. He really tries to awkwardly shoe-horn in those two poor supporting players, and also that jim jaroosh or whatever. So I've got to take my hat off to you, madame, for allowing your content to grow up. That's why you have an audience of probably half a million people; you allow your persona to age and evolve. I can really only laugh at that clip of _Street Fighters_ or whatever SO MANY DAMN TIMES.

HEY, WAIT. HOW'S THAT DUSTER _FLY???_ THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. DISNEY,™ REMAKE THIS MOVIE AND EXPLAIN HOW THE DUSTER CAN POSSIBLY FLY. FOR SHAME! YOUR ENCHANTED FANTASY _DOESN'T MAKE LOGISTICAL SENSE._ SHAME!!!!

The original one is great, the remake is shit-awful. Wait, I've heard that before...for every single thing ever.

Frankly, the fact that all those movies were released on VHS is probably the very damn reason we're shelling out billions of dollars to see the remakes on the big screen. We loved those movies as children, so we take OUR kids to see the new remakes in a hope to not just entertain THEM, but perhaps recapture a bit of nostalgic magic. It . . . rarely, rarely works in the latter. But if the kids dig it, who cares? Kids movies don't HAVE to be spectacular and creative and daringly imaginative. Why should we care if the star of our musical film can't sing? Who CARES if she sounds and acts like a robot? Kids don't no notice NUTHIN.' THEY DUMB. lol.,./

Wait, there are people who bitch about _Beauty and the Beast?_ By Disney??™ The 1991 animated film??? Who ARE these people!? I really don't think we should be paying any attention to people who nitpick art. I'm sorry, it doesn't MEAN anything so long as the film's good, let alone GREAT like the animated Disney™ film. Fuck 'em in the ear with a long screw. Who cares what they think???

I wholeheartedly agree, these are all the arguments I've been making since this came out. Only other big critique is that "If I Can't Love Her" is 1000% better than "Evermore" but whoops, I forgot, they don't care about the emotional character development moments.

I already watched this, but that repetition of, " ...I hate it" with that smile( and all your valid points) brought me back to watch it again. Lol

"Oh no! Here comes The Patriarchy™"

I totally agree with this! Thanks for making this video.

That's a weird looking Starscream behind you. The white, wedge-shaped one, with the green and red? Weird starscream.

Oh Disney makes a big deal about an LGBT+ character in their movies for the first time, but when the question of whether or not Shang was going to fall for Mulan as a man, that got a straight up denial. Because we can be progressive for a background character that's secondary at best, but god forbid an actual main character.

You seem like you try too hard to be funny

Hi Lindsay, long time listener, first time caller... I would LOVE to see your take on Zack Snyder's 'Suckerpunch', I'm sure you perspective would be incredibly interesting

I wish there was a love button on YouTube, there needs to be, just for this video! This is wonderful, hilarious, and says everything I've been trying to tell people since this film came out (and quite a lot of points defending the original too)! Thank you so much!

This movie was awesome

You always have the best lip colors. And videos... but I'm more jealous about the cool lipstick

This film was a big blah for me and I left so frustrated. Thank you for articulating so well all the problems I had. Even the fact they had Audra McDonald was ultimately frustrating because they hardly let her sing. It should be a law that she must have at least 2 songs in every film she's in.

I want "song of the south" remade and I want Tarantino to direct it.

oh please, yes!

Complaining that belle was overly feminist and given a better more thought out role model for young kids is sad. Are you sad? Are you lonely? Do you have anything else to do?

Belle is my favorite princess and I can safely say the live action sucks.

I had this very very little amount of faith in Mulan, but THEN I found out that she is going to have super-magic-powers in the movie, and that killed me.

I'm curious to know how you felt about Moana (unless you've already posted a video commentary on it that I haven't noticed yet) as far as the regurgitation of nostalgia goes and the lack of new ideas. I also EAGERLY await your reaction to Lion King when it comes out because I personally am terrified...

Lindsay, your videos are so good at the moment! I watched some of the older stuff a few years ago. I enjoyed it but it didn't grip me as the way your recent videos have. Your doing really great and you've improved a lot. Keep up the good work. Hobbit video is my favourite.

That adorable owl is the best thing I've seen from this movie also it's probably me and 5 others who care but i *hate* belle's dress in this, it's so ugly and uncreative and as someone who loves costumes and dresses, having a dress so iconic be so badly butchered irks me immensely

I liked this movie at first but the more I thought about it the more it pissed me off.

Yeah, my number one issue (I agree with your points for everything; I also hated the movie) was Gaston. I loved the idea that he was not a super over the top villain in the original. I hated that the live action ruined him so much and made him the over the top villain. Also with the dishes playing even as a kid I was like "Well, the movie flat out said the castle was enchanted".

I kind of want to see how Disney responds to TLJ, the ultimate film for finding nit picky complainers that want their hand held through the entire movie.

Thank you!!

I like the shade towards Cinemasins for this. The narrator, Jeremy, will sometimes remove sins (he removed several for the animated Beauty and the Beast) and joke about how he's an asshole that hates happiness but, well, he still makes videos that demand scientific explanations from mythology and folklore. It's both as pointless and annoying as barking at the moon.

Not to picknit, but I personally didn't think that was a neg so much as feeding into outdated misogyny; he wasn't insulting her for the express purpose of breaking her down to bang her, he seemed legitimately eye-rolly by "a girl liking romance". But it's certainly in line with his personality to just be a general asshole to everyone, so maybe? I think negging typically has more intent behind it than just being mean.

9:55 "the original DVD release in 1991" damn was I that late on DVD's? Didn't have a DVD player till the 2000's

I also hate the remake for all the reasons you pointed out (and a few more) but, to be fair, the enchanted objects feeling somewhat responsible for how the Beast turned out had already been added to the Broadway musical, as well as the idea that they are slowly turning inanimate (there's a conversation between Lumiere and Cogsworth in the musical that explains all of that). The Broadway musical also has its share of problems with expansions, but at least they keep the spirit of the original animated film (which I still consider a near-flawless masterpiece). This remake is just... ewww

Ryan Clark you people always gotta bring up some kind of russian conspiracy

BaconOddity lol you’re an idiot

Lindsay Ellis love that book and The Men Who Could Be King about DreamWorks origin

Okay I might get shit for this but, I fucking loveeeeed this movie and still do. Im a nitpicker when it comes to my movies but the live action disney remakes are a huge guilty pleasure thing, my friends complain that I always take movies too seriously and that I need to chill out, and even though I can see the flaws with it for some reason it dosent annoy me as much as it usually does. Maybe its the mix of magic, songs and Emma Watson that has brainwashed me

Thanks I hate it

"Thanks! I hate it." Me too, buddy. It also stands to mention that wow, I totally forgot Eurobeat Disney covers existed... again, I have mixed feelings.

To be fair to the part about the washing machine, they wanted the villagers to be reasonable without conflict. What better way to do this than have Belle upset that her machine was broke, even though it's perfectly reasonable that the villagers are upset that someone is not only washing their dirty clothes in the town's drinking water but also denying access to the rest of the community with her contraption.

That shade thrown at the NYT, though. Just...*chef's kiss*

I love this and your RENT analysis - thankyou for helping me analyse just WHY they are so bad.

Yo, you got name dropped on Vox. I didn't realize I'd been watching a film critic with national media cred.

No more remakes? Nah. They'll probably reverse engineer the whole process and put all their money into full animated remakes of any slightly comical live action properties. I bet Disney is really interested in how that spider man verse movie turns out come December. Btw I really liked your joke about Beast not seeing belles large pores anymore. Great video, keep it up.

So this movie was made to cash in on nostalgia and you hated it. Got it, Lindsay. Can't wait for your next video.

The reason why servants are turned into furniture is because they are basicly serfs (one small step above slaves) and literally belong to the crown. They are not truly people, they are property of the prince. Americans never truly understood what monarchy was really like. We believe the Disney version and see it as pretty and sweet. In reality, it was a necessary, but horrific step in human social evolution. Absolute monarchy is based on divine master slave dynamic. Serfs are not people, they are property, they dont have their own identity or agency; they dont have a faith or future outside the master. Medieval people who listened to this story understood that and didnt question it. Servants turned into furniture because they are already property and have no faith outside the faith of their master- that is something that didnt have to be explained to medieval people because they couldn't even conceive of any other social system. The same thing happens in sleeping beauty or any other medieval enchanted castle. The absolute king is divine representative of God's will on earth; he is the country, he is the land, and everyone exists only for him. Actual history is a horror show. I wrote this because so many people in the comments do not seem to understand that. They justify it by saying that it's just a plot convenience, or sorceress was evil, or that it's just magic and you shouldn't think about it too much. No, the truth is much more awful. And btw, what I wrote is not just my opinion. This is how medieval people actually saw their society and their place in it.

I have historically disliked your politics, because you even acknowledge identitarian nonsense, but damn...damn, when you nail it, you nail it.

How about the fact that the lean SO heavily on the FRENCH aspect of the setting but don't seem to notice that Belle has a BRITISH accent! What? Is anyone bothered by that? According to the film, Belle was raised in Paris! Why wouldn't she have a French accent? And on another note, the original film has forever been my favorite Disney cartoon film (although I think Lilo and Stitch is now my favorite, don't tell my mom) and when this remake was announced, I was genuinely excited beyond belief. The Cinderella remake was wonderful and magical, and it felt like a fairytale. Since the original Cinderella didn't really have much character building or anything else for that matter (it was just the story), I thought it was a vast improvement. But when I saw Beauty and the Beast in 2017, I was left unsettled. I wanted to love it so badly! I thought Emma Watson was the perfect choice for Belle. After all, she has lived in France and worked in France for a time, if I remember correctly. The first time I watched it, I didn't really think about it but then my mom pointed it out as the biggest issue for her, an it started to bug me from then on. Especially, after re-watching when I received the Blu-Ray for my birthday, and noticing that other characters had French accents. It just doesn't add up at all for a film that tried so hard to b period accurate. I would think that would have been a key point. Anyways, it felt like the 2017 Beauty and the Beast was forcing so many things and expecting it to just be accepted and loved because it had worked so well for Cinderella. The difference here is that, as I mentioned before, the original Cinderella had very little world building or character building. Cinderella and her stepmother were the only characters that truly had any kind of depth, and there was no real reason for anything else. Cinderella was the heroine, while Lady Tremaine was the villain. One was good, the other was evil. No one else truly made any difference. You literally could have switched out all of the characters for other stock characters and no one would have noticed. However, the Cinderella live-action remake took the concept and story and characters from the original and expanded on them. It gave the prince a real reason for Cinderella to fall for him, and vice versa. It built everyone up as characters for the better. They felt like real people. Which makes sense with a fairytale like Cinderella, which has very little magic in it. The magic in Cinderella is a plot device, not something is essentially part of the character. Belle had already had a solid character created in the original cartoon. That was what I had been drawn to, I think, as a child. She stood out more than any of the other Disney princesses. I feel like the 2017 film made her come off more as a snob than an independent person. Well....that was a lot longer of a rant than I had meant it to be. Sorry.

Where are all the moms? Thats simple. It's the fastest and now honestly laziest way to write your hero or heroine as a vulnerable character and is therefore more sympathetic with your audience. Thanks. I hate it.

I wonder if the writers of that scene knew that 18th-century novels were looked down on as mindless divergences.

Oh, come on! When has political correctness ever ruined a movie?

You forgot to mention to best thing about this remake: it made the original available to buy on Bluray for a time!

You’re just an idiot

The ONE THING I LIKE: The death scenes as they turn into inanimate objects. The goodbyes. The fear. The heartbreak. I was almost moved to tears. That's it.

Still looking forward to Aladdin

boy now I'm really worried about The Lion King

SHE DEAD

perhaps laserdisc?

You are so Janeane Garofalo-ey

Lindsay, ur one of the best critics. Ever. You’re so educated, so observant and u think outside the box all the time. Continue the excellent content!

3:15 - Why does he look like Son of Sam?

Lindsey doesn’t have a copy of ‘the game’ laying around but she does have and references the superior work ‘Bang! Anaheim’ 17:00

Don’t want to see a movie? Just listen to a book

But what about the forgotten monarchy?

I really hope Disney never remakes The Hunchback of Notre Dame. I feel like they'd change shit like make Hellfire some sort of sympathetic song to Frollo, make Phoebus a douche baggy jock, and completely cut out the scene where Esmerelda does her awesome and sexy dance. I like Maleficent and The Jungle Book, but there are some Disney movies (The Hunchback of Notre Dame, Beauty and the Beast, Hercules) that just DO NOT need to be remade.

You should review La La Land. Please do.

Thank you. I suspected as much so didn't watch, much to my husband's shock. Despite it's own problems, I love the cartoon version. And the only white guy I trust with this fairy tale is GRR Martin.

I really wish they had hired Emma Rossum instead, 1st n foremost +_0

You have this beautiful habit of taking these movies that I like and convincing me that they are irrefutably terrible. Like, I still enjoy Rent and this movie, but damn, all your critiques are totally on point

That lipstick tho, Lindsay!

I've always loved the design of the beast in the 1991 movie and in the modern one he just looks like some guy's buffalo fursona.

It's one thing the film does that bothers me. You're expected to fill in a lot from the Disney movie. Oh, remember the library scene? Remember that he felt bad when he yelled at her? Just pretend that happened.

This is so well-made and intelligent: Thank you for making great content. I'm inspired and will definitely make a Disney topic for my college class.

#ReHireJamesGunn

You do a really good job on your videos. I'm glad you aren't going under the Nostalgia Chick brand anymore, it allows you to be more of yourself and express your true feelings without trying to be a set character. Thank you for another great review. I can only hope that the eventual Little Mermaid, Aladdin, and Lion King movies are less terrible than this one is.

20:27 He turned back into a Human. A Man is a Spiritual Being. We're only people because of our spirits being that of a person. If we were turned into the Beast we'd still be Mankind and people. We'd just not be Homo Sapiens (But we'd still be Sapiens thanks to having the Human spirit which is what all alternate races of people in fiction have like the characters from Undertale and Sonic.) You don't have to start off a Human to be a Person because God gives the person spirit to multiple different species in fiction which makes all Sapients people because their spirit is Human. This is why Shrek and Fiona are so good together even before she becomes a full ogre because their spirits are the same (The spirit being the mind) and why people were shipping them together before they knew she'd not stay a Human because their bodies being different is a non-integer when it comes to Love.

I didn’t like it either

I still liked it lul

Good analysis and criticism! Unrelated: you may have cluster B personality.

You Rock Lindsay!

"there is a certain sect of film commentators who have built their careers off of complaining that there hands are not being held through the entirety of the narrative" cough cinemasins cough

flight of the conchords reference...subscribed! seriously, this is good stuff :)

I still like the live action 101 Dalmatians

Is every video going to have a ContraPoints reference from now on? Neat.

Thank you for this, especially the bit about the teaching girls to read. I actually am an historian of 18th century France, but even for me, it doesn't bother me so much because it's not accurate (even if it weren't a Disney movie, it's a fucking fairytale, why would you expect it to be?) but because it feeds into the myth that misogyny doesn't exist unless it's in your face. The question of female literacy in 18th century France is actually a good example of this: fewer women knew how to read than men, but this was not because anyone was saying that they shouldn't learn, but because teaching girls was deprioritized (as indeed, it was deprioritized for poorer, and particularly peasant boys; fewer women could read than men in every demographic, but the best predictor of literacy was socioeconomic status). Poorer families especially wanted children to start contributing economically as soon as possible, and if a family could (or felt it could) afford to educate one child, they generally chose a boy over a girl — a circumstance not limited to the 18th century by the way. Meanwhile, the Church did run schools for the purpose of educating poor young girls as well as boys, but when faced with the alternative of having enough of them to meet the population's needs and paying the upper clergy exorbitant salaries, it chose the latter on the whole. Is it reasonable to expect a Disney movie to make any subtle points about resource allocation and its relationship with systemic misogyny? Probably not, but that's exactly why they should have left that beat out. Not that it would have fixed the other problems, but it was just so damn unnecessary.

You were reading "But to make money," as if it had a period and was not a segue into the next thought.

I am feeling ready to cry when I saw Dumbo in the live roster....I absolutely adore that movie (flaws and all, acknowledging the cringe decisions) I can just imagine them relegating dumbo to the side character and these "oh so helpful family" as the main part. gag.

I didn't notice so many changes, but I only saw it once at a drive in. I did hate it though.

1. I don’t know what’s worse, the dead Mom plotline, or the (officially released by Disney) AU novel where Belle’s Mom and the Sorceress were the same person. 2. It’s weird that they’d add gay subtext for Lefou only to add ‘no homo’ subtext for Cogsworth— I always thought Lumiere was bi, and had a poly thing going with both Cogsworth and the feather duster. 3. Gaston doesn’t need depth. I always felt like ‘Gaston is big and hunts good’ was enough backstory for him.

your bad french accent made me smile. I love it

That's not really a neg though? A neg is an insult disguised as a compliment or equal parts insult/compliment. Perhaps there is more content to the scene not shown but as it is it's just a douche thing to say and he has nothing to gain.

I love indepth analyzis of painfully average movies

2 minutes in and I just gotta say that your videos are like a drink of cool water to a man dehydrating in a desert. So well written, charisma to boot, and so forth. To have someone who actually knows what they are talking about, and more importantly, knows how to articulate their thoughts, beliefs, and arguments in a thoughtful fashion...wish there were more like you. Incidentally big fan of MovieBob and it is precisely for these same reasons. I seem to recall that perhaps you are aware of him but I am unaware of the connection. Anyway I dont always agree with his assessment, but it is always a joy to view them: as it is yours. Thank you.

The Beast acts exactly the same as Matthew Macfadyen in Pride and Prejudice.

At 8:10 she spelt Positivity wrong right?

I read Disney War about a year ago, definitely recommend it!!!

The more I think about it, the more I realize that this movie feels like a shitty first draft, in the sense it has so many little diversions from the original that either never become integral to the story or are dropped completely. The thing with the enchantress especially baffled me. It didn't even have a fulfilling emotional payoff. It's like the writers just said to themselves "Make sure you stick in different shit so people don't feel like their watching the exact same thing," and that was their whole writing process...If they do this to Lion King I will literally eat my own face in rage.

To quote the Nostalgia Critic, "WHEN WILL PEOPLE LET WOMEN USE WASHING MACHINES--by God that sounds sexist, Beauty and the Beast!"

According to Disney, they only had 2 years to make the 91 version instead of 4. Do you think,if given the additional time, they would not have added the additional scenes and explanations?

I can't think of any hand drawn animated Disney movie, which lasts more than 100 minutes.

Love your content keep up the good work!

Please talk about Aida............for obvious reasons, Black culture, race relations, & WTF??

Honestly, I would like to see a live action movie of the Hunchback of Notre Dame. Maybe they could deal with the tone problems, the racism (PLEASE), etc. And from a visual perspective, with modern cgi, Hellfire would be a blast to see. I agree the pedantic need to "fix" things should be thrown into the sun, but if Disney really wants to stumble into art while chasing the money birds, going for the stuff they could do better with would be a stronger idea than this. (Also, as an edgy marketing campaign, maybe have Frollo say Make Paris Great Again, lean a bit harder into the Facism aspect of Judge jury and executioner Frollo)

Eeeek! The 605!! The horror....

The Beauty and the Beast remake is like that guy who explains the joke or the magic trick... The jerk sucks out all the fun and leaves you with disappointment and bitterness. Add portraying the Beast as one of those “intellectual” douchebags that negs and shows off his “wit” to win the girl, and we have a throughly unpleasant film with an unpleasant couple.

I find you incredibly attractive

Lindsay you are an important voice in our media landscape and we would all be the worse for it without your insights and dedication to leveraging your considerable intellect against Pop Culture.

Honestly, if you’re going to talk about LGBT people, you probably shouldn’t have used a clip of Hades considering his voice actor has had nothing but bad things to say about said community.

And you forgot to mention that her singing voice is flat.

ALSO the live action movie is the first result on IMDb... How the heck did that happen?

Lol not only did they do a no homo at the end for Cogsworth and Lumiere but Cogsworth is played by Ian McKellan who is GAY and wants to TURN BACK INTO A CLOCK because of some crazy woman hugging him!

Funny thing, women rode horses while wearing skirts and corsets for centuries. What pisses me off is that this Belle wears inaccurate costumes. Corsets were like panties or socks. Even poor women wore corsets. Even feminist-like women of the 18th century wore their stays. And plus, there was no need to wear stupid pants under her skirts while riding a horse.

You nailed it.

I'll be surprised if "Thanks, I hate it" doesn't become a meme

already was

That was really really funny and brutal.

Agreed. A tale is just that, a tale, and as such, it may be as old as time.

Actually I think that Watson is more concerned to preserve the idealise childish vision that her fans had of her than feminism, that why she does this kind of movies, and never strip naked, no that most of the people already hadn't seen anything like that before, her want to preserve that image of her Harry Potter years in the public, but I think that is counter-productive, because now at days, most people don't give a fuck.

Watching this now I’m wishing you were behind the creative process of this movie, you would’ve made it amazing! Instead of the guided shit masquerading as a “new classic” that it truly is.

Why's the Romeo and Juliet thing a neg? The fact that he doesn't like one thing that she likes doesn't mean that he's insulting her, or that he dislikes HER for it. Jesus.

the sigh, eye-rolling and snark? ._.

The Overture for the new Beauty and the Beast is real good though.

I loved both of them and preferred the remake

Is there any significance to the line "She leans in."? I feel like I'm missing something here.

I think that Watson was more concerned about her public image than her feminism, her public image is all what she cares now at days, and why she only do this kind of movies, most people doesn't care about actors and actress that have to much vanity and don't want to strip in front a camera, Watson thinks that men and woman hadn't seen a woman vagina before and they would outraged or maybe she want to preserve that childish idealise vision of her from her Harry Potter years.

Grim The Ghastly I expect to see the Gaston movie in 2020.

Perspective from the casual viewer: I didn't notice any of the things you've mentioned as sticking out / seeming odd or annoying or whatever.

35:25 benefits of a classical education

"Stuff", it's the new story.

See, my whole thing with the logic, is that even with the math of Beast's age... I wanted there to be some kind of repercussions for the Enchantress. Literally all of this is her fault because Stranger Danger. I feel like that would have been a fun angle to see things from.

Bae is back!

The bit about the servants becoming more inanimate was in the Broadway show, They even mentioned that some of the Object People has ceased to move or talk.

And of course, the recipe would not be complete without a bit of forced and unexplained ethnic diversity.

I stopped at 1.35/36.52. Followed a link by some idiot at Vox. Whatever she had to say stopped with the "bleeps".

Honestly cannot disagree but like, please do not shit on Disney's Broadway expansions bc they're actually really good?!??! SPECIALLY ALADDIN!!!!!!!! I've seen most of them; most of the ones still running today, and some that have been canceled after a few years and like: Disney on Broadway is GREAT!!!!!

Also, 101 Dalmatians and The Parent Trap were (and still kindda are) some of my new favorite movies. OK bye. I'm out.

God, remember when Lindsay went BeastZone for a month on Twitter after this movie came out? Also, I'm totally annoyed at how they tried to make the Beast more like, snobby and genteel. The point of the 1991 film was that he was losing his humanity, becoming an animal, but by learning about compassion and selflessness and that shit, he was becoming less of an animal, and more of a man. Meanwhile, as the film goes on, Gaston becomes more of an animal, as we see him move almost animalistically throughout the climax. Gaston is the real beast, because he is selfish and cruel. Making the Beast an aristocratic snob throughout the whole movie just makes him look like a dick, and makes it harder to believe that Belle is falling for this guy. Of course, the chemistry between them is so weak, I had an easier time believing she was falling in love with Ron in the movies. Every character beat Ron had in the books, they gave to Hermione, so all that was left for Ron to do was make snarky comments and get jealous of Harry. And don't tell me not to compare this to the Harry Potter movies, because Emma Watson is just playing Hermione again and you know it.

While some of your critiques are spot on. Others not so much. For example the Magic Book (which should have just been the mirror) was a tool to look at things not travel. Also your critiques eventually become more nitpicks at times. For example the white rose and the magic rose.I'm pretty sure that happened in the original.

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Disney poking fun on hitself makes me think of: "I'm not your old-fashioned Disney. I'm a cool Disney"

Just 8 minutes in, and wow, I have no idea who you are, and have never seen a video of yours, but this was really engaging, and well researched, written, and edited. You don't seem to be putting on some phony personality, nor is the work just some cheap derivative. This is... so refreshing for YouTube. Thank you for being so genuine. But the main shot is slightly overexposed, 2/10

Interesting and funny video. I think it's too hard on internet culture over the creators though. Complaining about minor plotholes in a fairytale (that's damn near perfect imo) like the animated Beauty and the Beast is annoying, sure. And there are definitely people who will never be pleased. But their LGBT representation, feminism, plot hole fixers were just laaaaazy. They didn't even try. They knew they didn't need to because, as you said, money in nostalgia. I don't think internet culture is to blame for Disney not bringing their A-game is all I mean. (especially when they'd just done it like 20+ years previously)

Ya see, I really like Beauty and the Beast, live and cartoon. And you would think I wouldn't want to watch this because it would make me did like it. However, I just found myself finding the movie hilarious due to the plot holes

I loved the eagle.

Man, this movie was such a let down. I went because I loved the animated Disney film so much, but this was not my Beast. Everything about him was irritating and more like it should have been from Gaston's mouth.

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Visually, I thought the new Beauty & the Beast was beautiful. I loved the additional music. I like it, but I don’t LOVE it. The Disney remakes feel drained of all their magic, and it makes me horribly sad. I get that they have to do something new and different to sell movie tickets because who wants to pay to see a movie with Netflix and Prime and Hulu? But this didn’t need “remade”. The original is perfect. As is the play. The Cinderella reboot made sense because that story has survived thousands of years and gets a retelling somewhere every few years. But this didn’t feel authentic or true to who Disney is and it feels like they’ve forgotten their roots and have given up trying to make art. It makes me sad.

The first GAY!!! HOORAY FOR GAYS!!! HE’S SO GAY! And dumb... lol. Great pandering! Inclusion and insult

It’s weird how much I love this channel, when I totally don’t give a shit about Disney or their movies. Even as a child I didn’t care. But I can’t get enough of this channel.

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So basically, Disney got JJAbramsised.

3:16 Holy shit, Michael Eisner looked just like the Son of Sam when he was younger!

Boy, the Beast looks awful. They were obviously trying to make him look somewhat attractive, but they failed miserably.

Nothing says female empowerment like making all the other women in the movie less competent in order make Bell look badass when she does basic shit like read a book.

I was surprised that in your whole (very accurate) video you didn't hit a couple moments that result from the other changes. As you point out, in the animated version the town sort of sucks but in a more general way. Also in the cartoon Belle is a feminist in that she is going to read and be who she wants and would like to see the world. And while she wants to see the world and knows her village is far from perfect, you can see she loves it even if it doesn't love her. The dynamic matches what will happen with Beast: she sees the good in the "beastly" town. In the new version she is put more directly in feminist conflict with the town. They actively fight her and she actively not just dislikes the village, she looks down in them. Early on when talking )singing about the town, she disdainfully rolls her eyes about it. Cartoon Belle saw the good in everyone and live in her heart. Live action? Eye rolls. Pair that with changes to Gaston. The crazy man aspect comes in later. Early Gaston they make more sympathetic. You left off that in this version horrible Gaston is the guy who is friends with a guy he clearly knows is gay. Considering he's supposed to be a judgemental prick that's pretty impressive. And wheras in the cartoon he wants Belle just because he sees her as the best, in the live action version he seems actually intrigued by her, that she doesn't just love him for being the town hero. Not the best reason for it but it does suggest more depth tgan previously. Meanwhile now Belle doesn't just not like him because he's a boob, she has the "your beneath me" vibe going. Not that she should like him but... it's an oddly uglier dislike. So at the start Belle, who we should like, is a bit unlikable. And Gaston, who we should dislike intensely, is jerky but actually has some points. In fact, unlike Beast, Gaston at the start of the film is someone possibly salvageable into a not horrible guy... Until they make him psycho later. So at the start Belle is less likeable and Gaston is almost likeable. It really confuses things. For me though seeing her roll her eyes in the trailer for the film told me mistakes were made.

Super good analysis. You articulate really well the annoyance I had at the end of watching this

Fix the plot holes but make more it will fix itself

I didn't question the "The whole castle got cursed for the actions of a 11/10-ish boy" aspect as a kid. I was just "Yeah that sounds like a thing a fairy would do"

So glad you explained why the live action sucks cause I didn't like it either! Lol!

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