The Ingraham Angle 02/13/18 10PM | February 13, 2018 Breaking News
Troubled, will. Never be the destroyed Trump media anyway, Laura Ingraham is standing by well. What are you what. Are you giving up for Lent you're going after poor ol Susan Rice and Brennan can use those names backwards, by the way really fast like what are you, maybe. I'll give up the e-cigs, that I got ridiculed, for using, on having. Given up cigars oh yeah. Those are you a vapor Shawn let's let's be let's let's get it all oh good grief give up that and my beer at the end of the night great why don't you ruin my whole life Oh. Shawn. That was a great show tonight by the way awesome, as always thank you thank you so much we'll see you back here tomorrow and I have a great show Thanks all right i'm laura ingraham this is the ingram angle there is so much stuff happening tonight oh my goodness we have a cover from every angle you're not gonna want to miss a moment phenomenal. Guests of course Andy, McCarthy is gonna, explain why Senate, investigators, are calling an email from Susan, Rice Susan. Benghazi, Rice get it right disturbing. And Joy, Behar and the gals at the view are hitting, the vice president, for, his faith so. As a former White House employee we're. Gonna discuss it all with Monica Crowley also, what's, the real message behind the Obamas, bizarre. Official. Portraits, but. First, illegal. Immigration, and the jobs that we won't or can't do. That's. The focus of tonight's angle, a. Big. Immigration debate, is underway on Capitol, Hill Mitch McConnell, is saying that you. Only have one week to. Do the whole thing for the dreamers and I'm. Telling you watching, this thing the same old open, border suspects, are at, it again front. And center is Senator. Dick Durbin he. Took to the Senate floor yesterday to. Repeat that tedious. Trope that, you Americans, are just, too lazy or unwilling. To do the jobs that only, illegal. Immigrants, will do, go. To the local meat processing, plant or the chicken processing plant and watch, who comes out of that plant at quittin time. Hispanics. And Africans, taking. What, are pretty tough dirty. Rough. Jobs. Because, others don't want them not many of us say. To our sons and daughters I'm hoping, the day will come when you decide to go and pick fruit for a living. Hardly. Ever hear that because. We know it's hard back-breaking work, and, immigrants, do the work. Now. That is so offensive on, so many levels we could spend an hour debunking. It and analyzing, it just. For my own personal experience, my, brother's my, mother and I did. All of these jobs we did manual, labor fruit, picking paper, routes lawn. Work cutting, lawns raking, lawns restaurant. Work my, mother waited tables into, her early, 70s and, if. She were alive I think about her a lot I think she'd probably show up at Durbin's office to throw one of her old polyester.
Uniforms, At him should be so mad I'll. Tell you what's really going on in this whole debate, the. Democrats, don't really, care all that much, about these illegal workers as much, as they care about getting their power, back now what do I mean, we. Know a lot of middle-class voters are fed up with the Democrats, so, the party, has, to begin to remake, the electorate, but, Durbin, statement, ignores, the fact that the inflow, of all this cheap immigrant, labor hurts. Americans. Who, actually will, do those jobs that Durbin, turns his nose up at here's. How my radio callers, reacted, to his comments, today I, was. In a position where, I really. Needed a job and I went around to these locations that Vic said were, only Hispanics, like in the restaurants, for example in, the kitchen and I could even get my foot in the door I've got 38, years experience, and heavy demolition. And I've got turned down for three jobs because, I don't speak Spanish now. For. A fair wage, Americans. Will do and have, done these jobs Senator Durbin so. Stop lying, to us, preserving. Entry-level work, opportunities. For Americans, is important. For young people it's. Also really, important, for those who don't have a college degree maybe, for those who don't have a special skillset developed. And. I think it's really interesting to, look back, to see how the Democrats, have shifted on the immigration issue I remember. The time when Democrats, actually, supported. The working men and women of the country and they, even worried, about flooding the nation with, poor people from other countries who were going to compete with poor people already, in our country, who are American, citizens or legal, immigrants. 25. Years ago this, was, Dianne Feinstein. Mexico. Does nothing, to, enforce its border, it. Is my view that if, we are going to have a North American Free Trade Agreement. That. Mexico. Must do its share because. The, day when, America, could be the welfare system for. Mexico. Is gone you have to concentrate on saying the people we, should be here are those who come legally at this time. What. Happened to that Dianne Feinstein, that's sounds, like Jeff Sessions, a couple of years ago when he was in the Senate. Imagine. A Republican. Made that comment about the welfare state today there'll, be howls, from, the lamestream, media. And from Democrats, how can you say that that was Feinstein. Amazing. And this. Was Bernie Sanders, 11 years ago who spoke out and voted, against. George. W bush's, push, for amnesty, i, think. It's high, time that, the. Senate of the United States of America, began to stand up for, the American worker, and I would hope that before. An immigration bill is, passed, that. It will respect the rights of American, workers both low-wage, workers, and both, professional. Workers. Look. Sanders, was, right. Where. Is the congressional, concern, for. The human dignity of America's. Low-skilled. Workers today and, they call them the working poor middle class lower middle class people and. People could support families, on these jobs, and. They could live decent lives and. Look. In certain with limited circumstances, in particular, industries, guest. Workers do make sense but it shouldn't become the norm certainly doesn't have to be and. I was thinking about this as well it would be nice if just once. In a blue moon we. Heard someone like a senator durbin or probably anyone, speak. In such emotional. Terms on the Senate floor, about, the innocent, Americans, who lost their jobs or their lives, at, the hands of illegal immigrants, case. In point on. Sunday. An illegal. Immigrant Jose, Duran Romero, slammed, into an and ambulance, carrying, a mother and her, three year-old boy in winston-salem, North Carolina, his. Blood level, alcohol. Blood level was double, the legal limit, he.
Injured, The mother and the, driver and the. Little boy is, dead. How. Many innocent, lives have to be lost before. The US Congress focuses. On the, well-being of American. Citizens, and legal. Immigrants, rather, than cow towing, to La Raza and the business lobby we're. All waiting oh. This. Is another good thing dick Durbin of course has the luxury of having a job that can't be taken, by an illegal immigrant, at least, not yet maybe he needs a little taste of his own medicine there, he can compete with the legal labor to even stay in this Senate, but. Whatever Congress's, final deal on immigration includes, if it if it ends up being a deal at all, the. Needs of the American people, the American. Worker should. Always be. Priority, number one and that's. The angle. Joining. Us now with reaction is, Heather McDonald, a senior fellow at the Manhattan, Institute who's, written extensively on, these issues along. With Austan Goolsbee, the former chairman, of the Council of Economic Advisers. Under President. Obama, it's great to see both of you alright often have, at it my, concern, about what Durbin said is that, I think it's really condescending and it's also it's, almost like stereotyping. An entire group of people okay, you poor people who come from Mexico, you're, gonna go to the chicken processing plants, as all, the other Americans, or you know pick up the jobs where they can I found. That to be stunning. Actually. Yeah. Look, I'm, not a fan of that argument, I think the part of, what senator durbin said that I agree with I think most American. Parents, want, their kids to, get high wage jobs I'm not, a fan of the argument, that goes we. Ought to purposefully. Create. A kind of an underclass. Of the of the work force that. Are things, that we don't want to do that's kind of the Saudi Arabia, argument, that's what happens in Saudi Arabia. Now. That said I think. There's, still a case to be made that, you. Know in the words, of Abraham Lincoln, the immigrants, are the, replenishing. Stream for, the native. Population. And if. You look at our native, population. Growth it's not that high I think I agree with your, principle. That let's ask what, is good for the American nation, and so I think when you look at immigrants, the first thing you should ask is are these people who want to become Americans. Do they buy into the American, Way and if so I feel.
A Lot more, leniency. Let's call it to trying. To incorporate them into the economy than, if it's just a permanent, guest worker underclass, yeah Heather, what. Durbin typically. Does is he conflates. Legal. With, illegal, immigration which is an old trick of the open borders crowd he. Did that in many of his comments yesterday and, he, did that again, today, when. He praised, an Olympic, athlete whose, parents, are South, Korean, immigrants, an American, let's watch. Let's. Remember, Chloe. Kim's story is the story of immigration in, America Chloe. Kim's story is a story of people who were come come to these shores, determined. To make a life, they. Don't bring wealth, many. Of them don't even bring proficiency. In English they. Certainly in many cases, don't bring advanced, degrees, they. Only come here with the determination, to make a better life for themselves in, a, better country for all of us, well. Heather nobody disagrees, with that I mean that again, it's we're talking about illegal, immigration. In the, comments, that he made about jobs, that Americans won't do jobs, that Americans have always done, but, not for slave wages your, reaction, well. They're still doing them Laura that's the irony in fact. There's about, 472. Different occupations, in this country. Illegal. Aliens. Make up the majority and only six of those occupations. You can go to cities, that have not had a flood. Of mass low-skilled. Immigration. And find. Americans. Working in the jobs that dick durbin says nobody, will take Americans. Are 63, percent of all meat processors. They, work as hotel aides this, is a. Incredibly. Condescending attitude. Boats, towards Americans, and towards work I think, what parents, would say to their children is you, get a job, any job all jobs, are meaningful, and you work your way up and and. This idea that somehow. Americans. Are spent, and, you. Know lays worthless, and lazy and, that we need the new blood of immigrants of course, if people are, coming here to become Americans. They're driven by the dream, of freedom and, they, bring skills to this country. Yes, let's bring them but on the other hand we. Have to be very realistic, about the economic, consequences. Of mass. Low-skilled, immigration, and it hurts above all people. Of color legal. Americans, native-born. Americans. And legal Hispanics. Blacks. And, Hispanics, that are finding. Their wages cut. Out from under them and and. The mass low-skilled, immigration, both legal, and illegal is. Imposing. Massive, social costs, on taxpayer. Americans, in the form of schools and the criminal justice system, Austin. What was your reaction to I, did. Like an hour and a half on this on radio today because we kept getting inundated with calls from, Americans. From Wisconsin, to Texas all over the country who. When they heard dick Durbin they took it as a personal insult. To them and I. Know you don't agree with everything he said but I think it's important because that is an argument, that has made time and again by, those who believe we need to bring in a mass number of people, in. Amnesty. People who are here illegally in, people, it was it look like try to get jobs in like the hotel industry or they try to get jobs and they litter. Can't get the jobs because, once, an illegal immigrant gets in that middle management position. They. Only hire other illegal immigrants, now. Here's. Where I was. Following the MS MacDonald and your argument, as it was going along but, there, I think the data kind, of don't back that up if you look at the states where, there are the highest, levels of immigration both legal, and illegal, the. Wages, of natives. Of the native-born population are, actually, substantially higher.
Than In states, where there is not that much immigration, if you look at immigrants, they, start, businesses, at higher rates, than do, the, native-born legal. Legal. Immigrants, knotch illegal, illegal and illegal, legal, and illegal. Study. That came out two years ago three years ago it was a Pew study okay, and Heather I know you and I talked about this on radio I don't mean to cut you off Austin but in, the study demonstrated, this, is Pew Research huge, study that, the the you, know the illegal immigrants, take jobs in various areas it's farming fishing 26%. Building, and grounds 17%. Construction. And mining 14%. Groundskeeping, almost. A quarter of all groundskeepers. Now illegal immigrants, domestic, work 23%. Clothing. Manufacturing. To the extent there's that left in the country 20%. Heather. This these, are jobs that Americans did, do and they're, not doing it now because, the the wages are being undercut, by. A glut. Of people it's not in every town in every part, of the country but, where those jobs are displaced, of course. The wages are not rising. Commensurate. With how they're rising in other sectors, that was my point absolutely, and. As, you've been saying it's also question of just cultural, change but I wouldn't like to respond to Austin's point you, can't look at wages, as an aggregate, the National Academy of Sciences, study looked and found that there's, a minimal. Increase. In well-being for, Americans, as a whole by immigration most of the benefits go to the immigrants themselves but, when you look at the lowest wage, Americans. The. People that have the high, school education at most there. Wages are driven. Down by. Mass, low-skilled. Immigration, legal or illegal and, that's why it's so important not just to. End. The flow of illegal. Immigration, but to change our immigration, flow overall well, we'll see a prediction, from both of you is there gonna be an immigration, deal at the end of a week yes, or no Austin. No. I don't think so Heather. I agree, with Austin on that all, right we all agree there's not gonna be a deal I appreciate. It guys and by the way if you don't think there's a war on Christianity you laugh at that prospect you haven't been watching television, stick, around you got to hear what joyless. Behar. Said today in the view. Oh. Joy. Behar she, hit a new low today haven't we said that before a few times well she, was attacking the Christian faith of vice president Mike Pence well, why not it's so easy to do especially right. As we're getting into Lent just. Listen to these comments today on the view, and. One thing to talk to Jesus it's, another thing when Jesus, talks to you exactly. Little illness, if I'm not correct I don't I'm hearing, voices.
I'll. Tell you one voice I wish I never had there again let's. Get a drew view from Monica Crowley of the London Center for Policy Research in New York and from, Madison, Wisconsin, of course, Madison, Wisconsin, Dan Barker, the co-president, of the Freedom, From. Religion Foundation. It's. Great to see both, of you let's, let's talk about this Joy Behar deal I. Always. Like, to say why. Do they, not ever try this stuff, on Muslims. I mean it's always like, the Christian, conservative, guy or gal who, gets hit with this stuff occasionally the Catholics, get it across the face too but they never really do this with the Muslims they always focus on the Christians Dan I do. It with Muslims I've debated eight or nine Muslim, scholars and I've said that, very same thing that belief in their Allah, is just as delusional as, the, Christian belief in Yahweh and so it's not just Christians, as anybody, who, has a delusional. Idea that the dictator. Of the cosmos, is talking, to them that's that's, dangerous. Monica. Laura. Whose voice would you rather hear, on a regular basis, joy Behar's, or Jesus's, I'll take Jesus, any day look, the truth is that if the Vice President, were Muslim, and he came out publicly and, said he regularly, converses. With Allah Joy, Behar would, be celebrating. That point the, left is constantly, positioning, themselves as, champions of diversity, and tolerance they, respect, everyone's, beliefs unless. You're a conservative, and/or a Christian, in which case you have the wrong, beliefs, and you, are to be mocked and roundly. Dismissed the, only extremist, here is Joy Behar and the rest of the crew on the view that took the opportunity to take cheap shots at, the vice president, and by, the way his personal, relationship, with Jesus, which is the essence, of Christianity. Hey. Dan I was always, wondering the Freedom From Religion founded. Like how do you do do you guys meet or is it just you I mean do you guys have meetings, and what. Do you do have. Copiers. We have national meetings our, next conference will be in in San Francisco, of course and novo that's a shock we have moving, on to Boulder, after, San Francisco, and then we're going to Austin Texas and then we're gonna finish up in Cambridge then, we'll have a final meeting and Washington, DC I'm, just like we're doing yeah look I'm doing to you it's not fair Dan because you're so fun especially, around the Christian, holiday so you're such a fun person I do not want to were to kill you I'm really glad you're on the show but I want to play for both of you what the Gaels on the view were discussing, about, what, you, know amorosa the former White House aide said, last night on Celebrity.
Big Brother watch. We. Would be begging for days of Trump back if pence became president, that's all of its day he's. Extreme. I'm. Christian, I love Jesus. But. Thinks, Jesus tells him to say thanks. My. Jesus I said. Scary. Even. The other contestants, on the hot on, the celebrity, whatever, that is what is that big brother I don't even know that was still on Monica, a poor. Omarosa, I mean I think she's just she's, become her own character, in her own continuing. Reality. Show but she even. The other people didn't seem to buy what she was saying yeah I mean the national discussion the. Parameters, of which should never be defined by amorosa I want. To make a bigger point here Laura which is you, know the sickness, of the left is that, they think that their God and this was something that was done to great effect by, the communist who, banned God made it illegal, to worship, in any way and elevated. The state to replace, God and the, American Democrats. Have adopted so, much of that where the state is them and they think that they're in a position of, omnipotence, and, therefore God is irrelevant and anybody who believes in Jesus or God is. A fool, to, be targeted, and mocked but again it's only Christianity. And that you see sometimes with Judaism but, primarily Christianity. They, look at that as a tool of the weak to, be mocked and dismissed, and it is gross, and disgusting and, should be rejected in all of its forms hey, Dan when when Obama, was over. There with Rick Warren at his Church in California when, Hilary spoke. At various churches during, her campaign even, Al Gore I believe. Appeared. At a church were. You you, know did that keep you up at night we were really worried about that or I don't remember he's speaking out when Obama was doing that kind of stuff well. We did we complain about religion. Mixing with our secular, government, in, any way and of course our else's point was, what strong I'm Ross as a Christian, that's a Christian criticizing, other Christians when I was a Christian. Evangelical. Minister I used to think God was talking to me until I realized, well everybody.
Thinks God is talking to them and nobody agrees, with each other it's really dangerous, for one person especially a secular. Governmental, leader to, think that he's getting Direction from, something that we cannot, confirm, he can have his views if he wants to pray. To Jesus, or mother or whatever that's America, I'm clear just so I'm clear you. Must be really, offended. By most. Of George Washington, seminal, speeches, to, the country, and to his troops correct. We're. Not offended by personal, views I'm not a fig, Mike pants has. God. Did oh no no no Washington, summon the Almighty both, for inspiration. And protection. Of our, tree but in our in our nation, and our nascent Republic, so that, was Laurium so, did that bother you. Well. Well, George Washington, was not the kind of Christian that the evangelical, right would embrace today, you. Know this. Machine. And figure that out. George. We do leave ok I did, not George. Washington, having a lot more respect, for Mike pets than, hanging out with a bunch. Of atheists who complain every Easter Christmas and. Exaggerating. Oh you know what you know what Dan you know I'm not exaggerating because your idea of bravery. Is putting, up a billboard and, set insulting, Christians, that's your idea of a brave statement, we support, you we'll have you on the show I'm glad you have the right to speak out but, that's not courageous, and brave that's, just being Laurie in the back side because, because you know every time a Christian holiday comes along you'll, get invited on TV that's, your right to do it but it's not brave it's not courageous and will praise really you are less of what you believe you invited me, Laura you know my views and you invited me you do know Laura that tens of millions of good Americans, do not believe in a god. Otherwise. We're, talking, about someone who goes on TV and mocks someone. For, his faith you, don't you go on ma on television, and you mock someone for their sexual preference and you'll, never work again you go on TV and you mock someone for their faith and you get the applause and, the love of the elites and maybe some groups like yours but, we're out of time guys great sentiment, as always, and we'll, have you back they both have to have you on radio would be fantastic and, from a war on faith.
To. One in cyberspace. Put, potentially, Wow a massive. Cyber attack could. Soon stop life as we know it in the United, dates that's what summer warning is the, USA ready for it this could be some type of silent, Armageddon, the experts, are saying alarming. Details, from top officials, in Washington today, we'll, talk about it up next and later, blockbuster. From Andy McCarthy explaining. The Curious Case of Michel, Flynn's guilty, plea to the FBI new information, on that and insights coming, up. Just. To put you in a really good mood tonight the, United States is facing attacks, by Russia China, Iran North. Korea organized. Criminals, and terrorists. Their. Weapons are invisible, but. Potentially, devastating Director. Of National Intelligence dan, coates told senators, today that, cyber security threats. Are coming from every, direction. Our. Adversaries. As well, as the other, malign. Actors, are using cyber and other instruments, of power to. Shape societies and, markets, international. Rules and institutions and. International hotspots. To their advantage, from US businesses, to the federal government to state and local governments, the, United States is threatened by cyber attacks every day. Security. Expert, Morgan Wright is here to address the big question, is a devastating, attack not. A question of if but when. Morgan. One. Of the great moments today I think came from Marco Rubio where he pointed, to a country. That I know you've been focusing on a lot which, is China let's watch. The. Biggest issue of our time in my view and I think in the view of most of members of this committee and I would venture to guess most. Of members of this panel is, is. China and the risks they pose I'm, not sure in the two hundred and forty some odd year history of this nation we've, ever faced a competitor, and potential, adversary, of this. Scale. Scope, and capacity, the tools they use are everything from hacking into companies, and critical. Infrastructure, and and defense. Contractors, everybody, you can imagine of. Course we helped enrich them all these years for this massive, trade deficit, that now the only real Trump is attacking, what, do we do and what could happen look with, the Chinese it's it's got to be pure just raw power they're taking over the South China Sea, they're stealing our technology their, latest announcement, of the their stealth fighter looks, suspiciously, like the b-29, dosis stole installed stole from us in World War two and and recreated, so we've. Got to hit back hard at these guys we've got to start cutting off access to our research institutes, our university by the way Laura I won't, say which one it is but I had the chance to speak with a former chief of station at the CIA teaches. At a college they will not let any of the Chinese into their national security program, because they're to collect information on who the graduates, are so they can later figure out when they get posted who, the, people are that are getting intelligence training, and going into the intelligence community, they're setting up those. Centers, computation, centers, and we, saw this happening, starting 20 years ago teaching Oh Mandarin, let's do dual learning, in Mandarin and English isn't this great we'll just eat instruction, it's just a global economy it's all wonderful Tom Friedman will be happy but. They're doing it as part of a global plan they want hegemony, not just in the South China Sea but, all around the world and what does this mean if China decides, one day to. Flip the switch on the United States what does that mean they have one point two billion people whatever they've got a very, advanced cyber threat capability, they're used to this thousand grains of sands they will collect information over and over and then at a time and place of their choosing they'll. Do to us what we are not willing to do to them which to take out the power grid to attack our emphasis what happens how many days is it take before society, begins. To deteriorate if you can't get your money gasoline. And food can't be delivered because it's all computerized Navitus, doors add to that money if you take out ATMs you take out people can't get the cash then what we start seeing is is very quickly like what happened Ukraine when Russia started attacking them started, taking out their power and stuff you'll see it devolve very quickly because we do not have the civilian police force being a former cop I can tell you there's only a million cops in the United States and 340, million people if people decide to start getting.
Out Of hand and riding we saw it in Baltimore, we saw it in Ferguson we saw it other places they're simply a not not, enough civilian police force to, be able to manage. These things so when you take out god, forbid you take out Facebook, and Twitter and people don't have their single freak out at hotels oh they don't have Wi-Fi Wi-Fi is down like. They never you. Know they never lived they, can't they can't survive without that but we're talking about basic, necessity, you're talking about hospitalization. You talk about critical services you're talking about our critical infrastructure, our critical infrastructure is probably the most poorest thing we have out there we're, such an open, xiety and the fact that we are allowing for nationals. To be not just in certain. Sensitive areas like in our universities, which are open by nature but in our critical infrastructure, we lose so much intellectual property, that it's designed to defend us every, year to the Chinese in the Russia this is eye-opening we, also have the Chinese birth tourism which we're gonna get into later in this week and in this country which also has to stop Morgan. Thank you so much great great segment and have you seen I know Morgan has the official, new portraits, of the Obamas, well, they tell us more about the couple then you might think in the artist what, were the artists thinking, well we're going to get into it next. I'll. Explain the beads later the. Official, Obama portraits, unveiled at the Smithsonian. Are more than just a radical break from tradition critics. Say they are just, plain radical and so are the artists who painted the Obamas official portrait Kehinde. Wiley who. Painted the former president, felt, a special, kinship, with his subject. When. You look at this painting there's sure, an. Amazingly. Handsome. Man I, was also inspired, by. Barack. Obama's, personal, story that sense. In which he and I both, do have that echo of, single. Parents. African. Fathers. That search for the. Father that sense of twinning. There. Is kind of like this echo, of he and I in that narrative. It's. Of him and me but who cares about Grandma at this points late at night here. To discuss our Fox News contributor Raymond, Arroyo and, fully brainís who's the former State Department's senior advisor Hillary. Clinton and I'm wearing Mardi Gras beads because lent has good Mardi Gras in an hour in, 15, minutes and I'm gonna have fun for the rest until, then I'm gonna have fun all right Philip Julie, sorry I always do that tell, me about the portraits, and what they represent they're interesting, that's for sure they're conversation, starters well, I was, told there would be no math or art when. I came you. Got, to go easy on me I, didn't, know anything about the artist or, his background and I did some research now I have flashbacks, to college or history. It's and. I. Got a C and. You. Know I guess it's a biblical it's. A it's a. Scene. Of Judith. And please let me get this right hollow furnace, which, has been well, he's done that in the past he's, polite, he puts black, subjects. In historical. Settings Brassica. Western, art piece and various artists. Have changed, the people they represent people in it differently yes black women decapitating. White women well what is that. Yeah. He says it's his take on the kill whitey thing which I don't know why a process. Image. For the Portrait Gallery I mean he could have picked anybody I mean the guy is interesting, he's kind of a worker. Out there I kind of like that it's like not boring stuff having he's kind of cool I like his jacket oh that's, all definitely not boring but I think the more important thing is diction, of President, Obama and I think it does get into a larger issue of race in that he was the first black president and that triggered, a lot of change, and discomfort and it manifests, itself different ways including the, birther movement and, others and I think we're seeing a little bit that now too I mean I think if, I'm not mistaken Sean Hannity had tweeted something about there, being sperm, and I'm, not left oh forgot to say that. Let's. Talk about talk, about the pictures. Well.
Know An art art by its nature ask questions, and answers them I mean I look this is my background I was in the theater this isn't, fair this is the one thing I the qualified, to talk about believe, Mary and when, I look at that and you see the president in that kind of Vulcan. Mean standing. In front of that shrubbery. Of, poison. Ivy that's overtaking, him it is an odd picture. I mean what is what, is that artist trying to convey it, really doesn't look, like the president as we know him there's none of the joyous Obama hope and change he's very good, bloom he's a cool customer well it's a little calmer. Than, reporting. Honestly, I'm confident, cooled by my, choice about this has nothing, to do and I don't care about politics, and this it's. A goofy painting I'm sorry, everyone's watching this it doesn't matter if you love Obama don't like no one ever unveiled. Handsome man I think that makes him look like it's remembers that Little Shop of Horrors like that's. What it looks like it's about to overtake you know that movie in them in the Cineplex Odeon, that gets sitting at that movies to the seed and then the vines all come over them odd. Residential. Paintings when you talk about you, know. You do not like it and I don't believe for a relative. I like. That. Face is out of. Looked. Happy about it said she's seen this before well I think she had I don't think she seemed that she's clapping, and trying to be happy Barack, Obama stood before it and looked at it as if he was looking at something from another planet it, is hot Michele's, hands are too large the, dress is like a mountain but she's fun she's really pretty and I thought it makes her look kind of not happy I mean I think she's gotta be she's really pretty and they're both like handsome. We attract, up a couple Laura. Think. What do you think of each of them tomorrow, the same way did yesterday, and this is a. Historical. Markers and remember but you know these people are and when, by the way no one ever gets these portraits right Leon Panetta the former Secretary of Defense when, he had his ceremonial, portrait, hung he. He. He does that his dog Bravo, was in the port. They're. Saying these are the first black artists, to paint a president, that's not true, siming knox actually, pointed a rather painted, a rather attractive photo, of bill, clinton in 2004. He is the black. Portrait, art but you know what see me come you know what the scandal was with that no, he, wasn't wearing his wedding ring oh no. No i of the wedding ring no he took it off Knox. Took the liberty okay taking. It off we had to spend a week with the new host showing, photos, of him posing, but, wearing this but you're making my things, go well you're making my point that art ask, questions, and the artist answers, them just, like the other years as well.
No It was a question. Why'd you take off because, they, questioned, his fidelity oh that's why it's there art tells, things that, what it's about, I'm still, trying. To get over when he said it's like 420 when, did that become a verb is that always been a verb - that was a very odd moment, the whole that's 20, we're 20 what. Can. We talk about. To. The arts reporter Beth. Weighted, Porter no when do they know it and that well after that Russia investigations. Portrait. Any Clinton, Scalia talked about. That. Was, by the way he was gonna put him with a scepter, and, on a horse, and then he was gonna put him with a Jaguar that is that's, his shtick he puts he pays a pop artist said I. Hope your portrait, is with the Marty biography there come a much I hope your inner man in with a crown oh you got it no problem as the media scrutinizes. The Trump White House there's a big story Philippe wants do this they, ignore another flashing. Sign that the Obama administration was, up to no good is that happening Annie McCarthy is gonna be here to explain the, latest revelation, about Susan. Rice why, it's significant, next. It's. Getting good Senate, Judiciary Committee members, are pressing, Susan, Rice to explain. By next week, a newly, revealed, the email. She's. Sending herself, an email talking. About her conversation, on January, the fifth were, the president, reassuring. Herself, and I guess the president that, this would be done by the book I think that's odd and disturbing. Because we know that the, investigation. Regarding, the, Trump campaign, was anything, but by the book and, the. Email also indicates the Obama administration. May have withheld, information on. The, Russia probe from the Trump team meanwhile. There's new information on, Michael Flynn's guilty plea who, better to explain it all than former federal prosecutor Andy. McCarthy who joins us from New, York all right Andy I've been dying to talk to you but. Let's first hit Susan. Rice because it seems like she's back I mean she was there to save him on Benghazi went, out and lied about the the. Deal with what, caused the attack in Benghazi and, now, she's, back again with, what certainly, looks like a, CY. A email. To herself yeah, the. Question is which, was she seeing, it. Appears and you. Know there's two interesting, things about. It one is this by-the-book stuff which. You would think at the very tail end of the administration, that always did it by the book it, wouldn't be necessary, to tell people that things needed to be done by the book particularly. When is Senator Graham, points. Out the, this thing was anything but done by the book unless the book is like rules for radicals, right, I guess, they didn't identify the book but. The the other interesting, thing that you that you point, to is this. Holding, out that they're laying the groundwork to hold out information, so, President, Obama wants, to know over the next couple of weeks if there's any reason why we can't share. With the incoming team and you. Know what you have to think about what was going on then they. Were investigating. Flynn at that time and he, is going to be Susan, Rice's successor. Who you would think she would be cooperating. With and. Would be sharing information with, and. Yet they were regarding, him as a criminal, suspect they were thinking about doing a Logan. Act prosecution. On him which is absurd, they. Ultimately had, the FBI go, speak to him and and ended up, prosecuting. Him for false statements, so I wonder. If they're laying the groundwork to not let. Him in on things because, they're regarding, him as a suspect rather, than her successor. Ah and. You, know a friend of mine today reminded, me of when we were in the Reagan administration, and he was in there in the last few days that. You're usually in the last few days you're not you're, not still sending emails and I don't know what time that email dropped I don't know if it was was it before 12:00 noon when I. Was. What timing what they say to that they say 12:15. Laura which is when she should have been clearing.
Out Her office right and if she's 12. 12 15 she, is gone. This is Trump land after 12 o'clock right, right, but she's still she's, still using government email and and I think she still had her security. Clearance but I I think she's. Creating. A government. Document on, purpose, and. We know that's not always the usual, thing in the Obama, administration often. They tried to not create government, documents. When they were doing. Government work but she clearly was making a paper trail here and. II also want to ask you quickly about this the. This deal with. Robert. Porter. And this. Whole, thing with his you know ex-wives, and, accused of abuse and the, time line that looks like it might be different from what, the administration. Initially said given what the FBI director said, today, what's. Going on with these security, clearances, and individuals, who are still working in the White House without security. Clearances, is that normal. Yeah it's not normal, for people, to be working for an extended, period of time at the White House without a full, permanent. Security, clearance and it, looks like what, happened here that. Looks like the nub of the problem right, now is the White House evidently, said that, the. FBI. Investigation. Was continuing. As of recently, and in, fact it looks like according to what director. Races they, had wrapped that up last year oh my, goodness well and Ebola, will keep on this with you great insights, as always and we have a lot more to get to be right back.