The National for Thursday, December 20, 2018 — B.C. Windstorm, Drones, China

The National for Thursday, December 20, 2018 — B.C. Windstorm, Drones, China

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On. This Thursday night it. Is unacceptable, that, we, continue, to uncover cyber. Crime committed. By China, against. America, and other nations US, officials accused. China of spying, on at least 12 countries including. Canada how, does that complicate, an already tense. Diplomatic. Standoff. We. Watched by and saw these huge lines and, like oh man we are very lucky not to be them travel, plans ruined for tens of thousands, as drones. Wreak, havoc, at London's, Gatwick Airport, what, are the rules in Canada, and could, it happen here. We. Really have are quite blind when it comes to medical devices and after, a cbc, news investigation, health canada takes a new look at implanted. Medical devices, but, is there a deeper, problem they're still not tackling, this, image. And. We're gonna start tonight with the developing story on the south coast of British Columbia where. A powerful, wind storm has caused widespread damage, this. Was the scene of the white rock here about an hour's drive south of, Vancouver that helicopter. Rescuing, a man stranded, on the dock after the, dock was ripped apart by crushing, waves, although. A storm had been in the forecast, its deadly, impact surprised. A lot of people many, were forced from their homes and hundreds, of thousands, have been without power where, they Philip Oni has the latest. Strong. Winds led to battering, waves. So. Intense, boats moored, to that pier in white rock smashed. Violently. Against, it some, so hard it busted, the pier in two while, people were on it. It. Was certainly a scary moment there were four of us that, made a big run to safety and. Fortunately. We all made it okay one. Person was trapped essentially. Floating, in the ocean and as you saw had to be rescued by helicopter. For. Many it was a terrifying, afternoon. Trees, toppled onto homes including. John Walsh's, the, damage is still being assessed in, the meantime he's, been forced out we, have good neighbors yeah. So, we'll have to. Walk. Her down with them for a little while until we can find out what's happening and hopefully. Hopefully we saw the house come back to. So, far one death has been blamed on the storm after, a man was hit by a falling tree. Stanley, Park and other parks in the region were shut down over concerns, that people would be hurt just off Vancouver, Island a houseboat, detached, from its mooring and drifted. Across the bay four, people were in the home and had to be rescued. The. Gusts, took down powerlines putting, hundreds, of thousands, of people in the dark so we did track the storm closely we did put additional and crews on standby last, night a dissipation, of the outages today. The. Winds were in the forecast, but the force of today's storm took people by surprise. Ferries, were canceled for most of the day leaving. People stranded, winds obviously, pick up and ferries, can't control what's going on so just. Gotta go. With the flow again winds. Peaked at about 100, kilometers, an hour and while, officials, say the worst is probably, over the, destruction, will take days to clean up Rene, Philip Oni CBC, News Vancouver. Those. High winds led to some flight delays at Vancouver International this, afternoon, but that is nothing compared, to what passengers, are experiencing, at London's, Gatwick, Airport, it has been a miserable couple, of days for tens, of thousands, of would-be passengers, stranded. Because at least two drones have brought everything to a halt more than 700. Flights grounded. They. Are still buzzing around while authorities decide whether to shoot, them down stuck. In the middle our passengers, left to wait and to fume briar. Stewart spoke to some of the Canadians among them. At. Gatwick, thousands. Queued up in lines that seemed to never move their. Holiday plans disrupted. All because. Of drones I don't, know I think it's crazy that someone, would just decide. To fly it at the airport and. And. That. It's been going on for so long now, so. It's obviously, on purpose, these. Canadians, were destined for Toronto, but like everyone, else they're now left, waiting a hundred. And ten thousand people were scheduled to fly in and out of Gallic today and now many of them are here stranded, in line, waiting with your luggage trying, to get a sense of when a flight may take off from here again.

It's. Not clear how many drones, have ground the UK second, busiest airport to, a halt but police say they believe it's. Deliberate, two were reportedly, spotted over the runway at 9:00 last night since. Then there has been multiple sightings. Despite. A police helicopter searching. All day they haven't been able to find the person or people flying them which is why big Colvin, helped we'll, be deploying, be armed forces to give them the help that they need to be able to deal. With the situation, of the drones the. Drones have been described, as substantial. And industrial. Experts. Say they're much more sophisticated than, something you might pick up at your local store this. Is either a larger, drone with. A larger, battery life or has, been custom-built. With. A purpose, to deliberately, disrupt, an airport. Operator. If. That's the case it certainly worked this, Canadian couple, had their flight diverted, from Toronto, to Birmingham, so they feel lucky they were at least able to take a bus to London we watched by and saw these huge lines. And. Officials. Are warning people that the airport, will be closed for the foreseeable, future including. Tomorrow. Which is expected, to be the busiest travel, day of the year briar, Stewart CBC, News London. Nav. Can which is in charge of air traffic control in this country says, it can't recall an airport being shut down here, because, of a drone could it happen well. The answer is not a simple yes or no in. The United Kingdom drones, aren't so aren't supposed to get within a kilometer, of an airport but in Canada that no-fly, zone is wider, 5.6. Kilometers, for, recreational. Users they, can only get as high as 90, meters versus, 120. In the UK, those are the rules but as this, case shows rules. Can. Be broken and, joining. Us now is Eric sot chuck an instructor, at the British Columbia Institute of Technology. And Eric I know you have expertise. With, drones so tell us what. Can be done at airports to keep drones away, so. The first step in keeping drones away his detection, a combination. Of hardware and software that allows you to detect drones both, the vehicle and the controller up to, about 15 to 20 kilometers away that would be step number one all, right and then step number two is to try to wrest. Control of those drones away from the person who's using them that's. Right there's a jamming gun that can be used it uses a high-powered. Radiofrequency, directional. Pointed. At the drone to either make it hover return, to home or even take control of it and land it it's, a pretty high-tech. Fearsome, looking device and, what can you tell us about its use in Canada so. It has been used at, the g7 summit it is manufactured, and distributed by a company local company here called Indra robotics, at a cost of about $70,000. Now. You, know when you're on a plane you're told to make sure your cellphone is turned off you don't, disrupt. The plane's communications. What about using a gun, like this a jamming, device like this at an airport what does that do to to, the planes that are flying around yeah. Generally speaking when we have a situation like this as we're witnessing right now there, are no planes flying it's just the drone and the guns so their chances of this disrupting, any sort of communication system when an aircraft is pretty, low and one, last quick question when you heard this story from London what was your reaction, well. We need to tighten up the drone, rules and we need to get these kinds of systems into, place all.

Right Eric's at Chuck thank you very much, you're. Welcome, the. Stakes just went up amid escalating tensions. Between the world's two economic. Superpowers. The United States called out China's, government, today accusing. It of cyber hacking on a global, scale the alleged, criminals, the u.s. says are part of a Chinese scheme to steal secrets from governments, and companies, and, as Ellen Morrow shows us Washington. Backed by its allies at a very clear message for Beijing. It. Is unacceptable. That we. Continue, to uncover cyber. Crime committed. By China, against. America, and other nations Deputy. Attorney General rod, Rosenstein, announced, the charges at a press conference this, morning two. Chinese nationals linked. To a government, espionage, team accused. Of targeting aviation. Telecommunications. And pharmaceutical. Companies, even a NASA Space, Center allegedly. Trying to get their hands on sensitive, government information, no. Country, poses. A broader, more severe long-term. Threat to. Our nation's economy and, cyber, infrastructure, than. China. China's. Goal simply, put is. To replace the US as the world's leading, superpower. And they're. Using illegal, methods to. Get there China, didn't just target the US today's, indictments, say more than a dozen other countries including, Canada were, victims, of the hacking the Chinese aren't playing by the rules or at least by Western, rules and they say oh you, are s because, of colonialism. And, we. Deserve, your intellectual property their, excuses, are pretty funny when you talk to them china's, activities, are being condemned globally, in a statement British, Foreign Secretary Jeremy. Hunt called, the campaign one of the most significant, and widespread cyber. Intrusions. Against, the UK and allies, uncovered. To date but. Will the criticism, amount to anything, probably, not says this analysts seem to change their positions to requires engagement, dialogue. Sometimes. Involves. Coercion or punitive, measures, for, China's wrongdoings, but. You only, have. Punitive, measures, without some, sort of engagement, and dialogue is not. Going to solve a problem either, but. There is some dialogue, even as the u.s. presses, today's charges it's also talking, with China pressing. For a trade deal Ellen. Morrow CBC, News Washington. Now. Those, two Chinese, hackers may, be in China, and if so they'd be beyond the reach of US, officials but as Alan mentioned Canadians. Have an interest in this case too and Ottawa, was quick to condemn Chinese. Espionage, it, was also very careful to, make clear it wasn't doing so out of revenge the. Situation, that we're dealing with today in, terms of cyber, security, was. First detected, going. Back to 2016. And. We have been taking the appropriate steps with, the private sector ever since then to. Make sure that that. Canadian, systems, and Canadian, companies, are properly. Protected so. That situation, began, long. Before the. Events of the last couple of weeks that, have affected. Two. Canadians, in one set of facts that another Canadian, and different set of facts that are. Being detained, in in China. Tonight. Global, Affairs Canada confirms, it has now spoken to the third detained, Canadian, but you, saw there right Ralph Goodale being, careful, even about how he talks about those three Canadians. It's become a very complex, set, of events and with the latest on that here's, Katie Simpson. Friends. Say sera McIver is outgoing, fun, loves, to travel and to teach but, the Alberta woman's passions, are on hold as Beijing. Officially, confirms, she's, under arrest you said you were, detained. On administrative, punishment, for working illegally, they say McIver. Is the third Canadian, arrested, by China in less than two weeks the. Government of Canada is. Is. Working by all possible, means to. Make sure that they are they are safe the reason, for McIver's, arrest is not uncommon, Global. Affairs says roughly 200. Canadians, are detained in China right now for, a variety of infractions. Anything. From invalid, paperwork, to minor violations. Of the law, McIver's. Case is also different, from that of former diplomat Michael khovrakh an entrepreneur. Michael spammer, who are facing more serious accusations. Of breaching China's national security, I got a Samba gala the young Canadian. Chinese language, broadcaster. Fairchild, TV quoted, sources as saying khovrakh, and spammer, picked up after, Chinese security officials.

Generated, A list with dozens, of names of possible, Canadian. Targets, all in, retaliation for. The detention of Huawei CFO. Mong Wong's oh it's, possible, based, on the knowledge you, know what, we know about how China works this professor, says China is known for using tit-for-tat, retaliatory. Tactics. In 2010. Beijing. Arrested, four Japanese, citizens. Allegedly spying, after. Tokyo arrested. A Chinese captain, in a territorial. Fishing, dispute, in both, cases China, has been quick to lash out, it's like poking, the Dragons straight in the heart a close, ally, is publicly, coming to Canada's, defense, the, European, Union's embassy in Beijing, says it fully supports, the Canadian, government, it's also trying to help with Michel kovorix, case after it was confirmed he has dual Canadian. And Hungarian. Citizenship. Katie, Simpson, CBC News Ottawa. And we are learning some late details about that Canadian. Michel Kovarik who's now been in detention for ten days a Reuters in Beijing is reporting, tonight that, khovrakh, does not appear, to have been mistreated. But he's being questioned. Every, morning afternoon, and evening, and he's, not allowed to turn the lights off at night he's, also not able to see a lawyer. Okay. Let's turn now to a new call for public input on cannabis, in this country Canadians. Will have 60, days to weigh in on the rules around three kinds, of cannabis, products so we're talking edibles. Brownies. Cookies and such extracts. Like hashish. And wax and topicals. So that includes cannabis, infused creams, and lotions the government, wants feedback on its proposals, for things like how strong, products, can be how they're packaged, and labeled and how, to enforce quality control, but. Of those three, ways to use cannabis edibles may be the one that's got everyone's attention simply because of how popular they are getting. Consensus, on the best way to make them safe though that's, a whole other problem, there's Catherine Color. Edibles. Only called to mind the humble, pot brownie it's, time to start thinking bigger, regulations. Introduced, today by the federal government open the door to all kinds of pot infused food and drinks, public. Health experts, say there are advantages, to products that don't need to be smoked, but. You, have to balance those benefits, against, the potential, risk of not understanding, the. Longer, timeframe for, THC. To take it's affecting your body if you consume it by. Eating in fact, when some US states legalized. They saw, rash of hospitalizations. When, users accidentally, consumed, way too much, pot to. Avoid that the plan is to require products, be sold with plain childproof. Packaging that. They be clearly, marked as cannabis, and no, package, can contain more than ten milligrams, of THC that's. The chemical in pot associated. With feeling high that's, okay for an, experienced. Consumer, but, certainly for a novice, user, you should be looking at something. Less than five milligrams, in, the beginning and slowly you can increase your consumption, some, pot producers, though argue, many of the limits are too restrictive, that means that every 10 milligram, cookie has to have its own package which, is a tremendous amount of waste his company, hexo has partnered with Molson, Coors to, make a cannabis, infused, non-alcoholic. Drink, he says limits on adding caffeine, for instance will create challenges you can't have any extra, added sugar so you, know it'll be interesting to see how we make these these these. Drinks interesting, another, restriction on edibles, products, can't have a shape that's appealing to kids so, gummy bears, are a no-no, though gummy squares, would, be fine, Canadians. Have 60, days to weigh in on the proposed regulations. Legal. Pot edibles are supposed to go on sale by. Mid-october Katherine, Cullen cbc, news Ottawa. Here. Are some of the other stories we're watching tonight US, defense secretary Jim, mattis has handed, in his resignation he. Spelled out the reason in a letter to Donald Trump saying the president, should have a Secretary of Defense who agreed with him on the major issues this, announcement comes just a day after the president overruled. Mattis's. Advise against. Pulling troops out of Syria he'll, leave by the end of February.

I've, Made my position very, clear any measure that. Funds the government must, include border, security, and. The US president not budging, on his promise to build a border wall even. If it means a possible, government shutdown which. Would happen if legislators, don't, agree on a funding, bill before midnight Friday, he, says he'll, only sign a bill that includes, 5 billion, dollars for the wall tonight. The House of Representatives, passed one but the Senate has already rejected. The idea. And. Ahead tonight on the national at issue tackles, the price of oil and the price of national, unity rosy, will be here with Andrew Paul and sha Chi and. A little later we'll follow up with a community in Northern Ontario the, moment it finally, connects, to the electrical, grid our. Diesel generator, is now shut down and. Hopefully. We'll never have to go. Back or resort, to using old, diesel generators. Health. Canada is promising, to improve the safety of medical, devices used, by thousands. Of Canadians, it follows an investigation, by CBC, News and an international, consortium of journalists, the collective, reporting, found, that tens of thousands. Of devices such as pacemakers. Artificial. Hips they, were approved for use worldwide, but sometimes. Relying, on old possibly. Outdated. Information, people assume, that there must be a lot of evidence backing a device if it is approved by Health Canada and. I think most people would be surprised, to find out how limited, the evidence often. Is in, Canada, these devices are said to have played a role in about, 1,400. Deaths over the past decade and more than 14,000, injuries, Vica. Doppio, was the lead reporter for CBC News on the implant files and he has a look at what the government intends, to do about the problems. It. Was a surgery, Nicky Carruthers, says she'd, hoped would make her feel better about herself. But. The complications, from her breast implants, began almost immediately, blackouts. Hypertension, chest pains ulcers, and exhaustion. I feel, like a 90 year old person and I'm like I'm not even 30 I feel like my life's over Carothers, his story is one of the many we heard about a medical device system, that works for most patients but, fails them when something with their device goes wrong Health. Canada is, announcing, new measures among, them a special advisory, panel on medical devices which, we'll hear from female patients, yeah, that would be a great idea because then you have people that, have actually experienced, what these things do to people and how their lives are affected other, new changes, by Health Canada include. Demanding. That manufacturers. Retest. Products, when, safety issues are flagged, in other countries, making, clinical and an adverse event data publicly, available, independent. Researchers, will now be able to conduct their own testing, on devices without approval, by companies, and hospitals. Will have to provide details, about, implanted, devices to patients, so they know exactly what's, inside them we have to see what this pathologist, says he's encouraged, but wanted Canada to follow other countries, by starting a national Reggie, three of implanted, devices so, we're kind of moving to a system which is more comprehensive, widespread. Why, don't we do it from scratch from, the foundation, properly, with the registry.

Help. Canada says there are no changes to the way devices, are recalled, it's, still the manufacturer. Who's responsible, for informing, patients and hospitals. But, that system failed, to notify patients, we spoke to this, surgeon says without changing, the recall process those, failures will, likely continue, more, of patients. Finding, out that they may have a problem on the evening news as, opposed to through a routine. Notification. Of recall or problems, as we might get with romaine. Lettuce meat, scares. With. Our vehicles. And. So Vicki I mean you touched on this in your story but but tell me what are other countries doing that that perhaps Canada, is not, about keeping tabs on these medical device well, tracking. Medical devices right, from the point with the manufacturer. To when. They get put inside patients, dr., Mitchell who he just heard from there in Halifax he compares a lot of hospitals, in Canada to a giant Walmart, store but, with no cash registers, patients, come in then they leave with devices, in them then at the end of the day workers run around with clipboards, and try to figure out who got what now that's a problem say, when a knee implant, gets recalled, a lot of these device records exist only on paper but, both the US and the EU are implementing, standardized, barcode. Systems, for every type of implantable, device, so, they can be tracked better Canada. Is actually involved in developing, those standards but Health Canada says it's technically, complicated. To implement here so, there's no timeline for that happening, in the meantime Health Canada is encouraging, patients to get as much information as they can about that. Device that's going inside them okay important, work you've been doing on this file thanks so much Becky you're welcome. Up. Next on the National Rosie we'll be here for at issue this. Week it's all about oil pipelines. And the regional divide and RuPaul. And Sacchi are here with their take on the state of Canadian unity, first though you think you know skiing, I'll, take a look at I. Could. Not figure out how you were doing that I had to track you down because, all I could see it was a man cruising. Across the lake on a pair of skis and I could not see how he's doing it. We. Are continuing, to watch the impact of that powerful storm that pounded, southwestern, British Columbia, today. Caught. On this shattered pier which was damaged, by high winds and waves had, to be rescued by helicopter he, was taken to hospital also, one death has been attributed to the storm which also, forced ferries from the mainland of Vancouver, Island to, be canceled for most, of the day falling. Trees down power lines leaving hundreds. Of thousands, without electricity, this. Evening the power outages, are still in effect with winds have died down considerably. Are. We disappointed, yes there's. No question, that, was a reaction from BC's government, earlier today, as British, Columbians said no, to, changing, the provinces, voting system in a referendum on electoral reform.

More, Than 60%, of, voters chose, to keep, the current first-past-the-post. System. This, is the third time residents, have rejected proportional. Representation. Alberta's. Energy, sector is not just the historic, backbone. Of our economy, but. A key part of our, country's future we didn't ask for the opportunity, to go further into debt as a means of addressing this. Problem what. We asked, for was for, them to remove the handcuffs. We. Don't need, handouts, we. Just want, to get back to work. That. Message those messages came after, the federal government offered up 1.6, billion dollars in aid for the oil and gas sector earlier, this week but that money doesn't really deal with the long-term problem, and Lebert ins still seem frustrated so, was this the right response, from Ottawa and are these ongoing, tensions sort of pulling at the fabric of Canadian, unity the atishoo gang is here to tackle all of that Andrew, Coyne is in Toronto tonight Paul wells also, in Toronto this week and Shachi Curl is in Vancouver okay Andrew. Let me start with you let's, just start with with the fundamental, part and that was the government's, decision, to do something, about an, issue that. Has. Been bubbling away in, a way that is potentially. Politically, damaging and. Troublesome I guess was, this the right way for, the federal government to respond no. It was tone-deaf. To begin with I don't think a lot of people in Alberta were actually looking for this as some of them have let, the government know loud and clear if anything perhaps it was meant to play well in other parts of the country to show that the government was responding to Alberta but this as many people said this does not begin to address the issues a lot of the money isn't even for the oil and gas sector it's for getting out of the oil and gas sector which, just feeds the reality. Of the perception, that the federal. Liberals don't want the oil and gas sector to exist, so, no I don't think this either solves, the problem is substantive terms and it certainly don't think helps them politically. It, must. Help people though in the short term though Paul I mean Albertans who wants something there, might be something to tap into there in terms of employment, insurance or training money or something yeah but the bulk of it is is. For. Capital investments, it essentially. Will help. Industry. Get. Even more over the long term it, will help the oil industry get even more oil that it can't sell out of the ground it's, like you're at our restaurant, and you really need to use the bathroom and your waiter says let me bring you another dish that's, not the question, and. And and that explains some of the frustration, you, can actually just go though and then the dish will be there when you get back but ok fine, chechi, how do you think that that that response, I mean they had to do something they couldn't just sit there and say you, know we're hoping to build a pipeline once, we finish this thing they had to take some sort of action so how do you think it went over well. It was a bit of a damned if you do damned if you don't situation, not. Suggesting, that it was enough or that it's going to alleviate, any of the frustration, the only thing that's going to alleviate, the frustration, is to build, the damn pipeline but, that, said had. This, government, not offered, some, relief some bailout, regardless. Of what it looked like you, would have had the sketch one in Alberta saying, where's, our bailout auto got, one, manufacturing. Got one softwood, got one where's ours, but you know all of it really speaks to a growing. Sense of disengagement, and, alienation. In Western Canada and I don't speak of it as a monolith, but particularly, in Alberta and to an extent in Saskatchewan, as well sometimes. Joined by CBC. Sometimes, joined by Manitoba, it was largely papered, over during the Harper years but it's on full display now, and it is absolutely. Taking, a toll on the fortunes, of the Trudeau government, and you, know for the first time we're seeing Andrew, Shearer in a situation, where Canadians, are looking at him as best Prime Minister material, they have to be worried about that going into next year I'm not sure that there really is would be much demand or much call for bail.

It's What everyone in Alberta has been saying is we want a pipeline, of some kind, now the. Timing of this is particularly tone-deaf, it seems to me at the same time as Trudeau gave that interview where. He said well we're not going to proceed, with energy East effectively. Because Quebec won't let us now there may be good, reasons not to proceed with energies maybe it's just fundamentally. But to frame, it as that as we're not going to because there's no constituency, forward in Quebec when, they were prepared to push things through in BC over a lot of opposition in BC it, just feeds this again reality, or perception that, they are much more focused on what happens to go back than they are in the West when, people start talking about why is there a tanker ban in the west coast but there's no tanker ban the East Coast these things resonate with people okay, so so, let's. Let's dig into sort, of what chachi brought up there and that is what. What seems to be divisions, in the country over, this issue and, some, of them are being exacerbated. Probably on purpose so I'll play this little montage of the Quebec Alberta premier, and and the Prime Minister who's asked really directly about that this week in his year-end, press conference, here's what that sounded like not. Only is our product, not dirty but that it actually funds. The school's the hospitals the roads and potentially, even some of the hydroelectricity infrastructure. In, Quebec there's no social acceptability. For, oil in Quebec. I can tell you there, are not many Canadians, out there who wish ill. On. Other Canadians. Regardless. Of which part of the country they're from. Whether. It's Albertans or Quebecers or anyone, in any part of the country. I. Mean, that sounds very nice I think that's probably true but. I don't know that it deals with the political reality, of anything Paul and I'm not sure that it addresses the fact that you have a Quebec premier making these inflammatory, comments, at, a time when there is a crisis, in Alberta and they do feel, sort of left behind so what, do you make of I guess, how it's played out between the provinces but also the Prime Minister's response yeah, I mean if it's any consolation. To people outside Quebec just, about everyone in Quebec was quick to tell France while ago that was a dopey thing to say, that. There. The social, acceptability, of oil in Quebec extends. So far as everyone, in Quebec drives around the. Quebec. Pension fund invests, in the oil sands when that's a good investment. And I think I think France well ago will be a little more careful next time. But. A lot of a lot. In national, unity stress, is confirmation. Of. Perceptions. And expectations look, Stephen Harper couldn't get a lot of pipelines built to Tidewater either, but Stephen Harper was. An. Albertan. By. Adaptation. And therefore almost more Catholic than the Pope on a lot of these things he, absolutely. Believed, that, the, resource. Heartland. Of Canada, is its economic, powerhouse, and and should, be, there's. A hunch that Justin. Trudeau who, lived. In Montreal and lived in Vancouver, but, forgot, to spend much time in Alberta whose, principal, secretary used, to run the world, wildlife edit Federation, and said some stuff about the oil sands that is not, helpful to have on the record today. That. That he cares less about these things and maybe. That creates, a situation where he's got to try harder, but he's not seen as trying harder and when, the. Sort of canary in the coalmine here is the premier of Alberta Rachel, Notley who got elected. Roughly at the same time as him with, roughly the same promises. As him and should, be an eject objective, ally and is increasingly, frustrated, with this crew in Ottawa that's, a problem. Well the. Perception, thing I think is a good point Paul but I mean, there is a reality, to, to, the oil and gas sector as, well and it might not be something that anyone wants to talk about now but we, will have to move towards something at some point, so. Shachi, how does a prime minister deal. With that in a space where as Paul points out there is this, tension between places. And he doesn't seem to be perceived. As I, don't, know being on the right side or being on all sides if possible, it's. Almost impossible to be on all sides about to your point that this is there is definitely. Political, calculus, between behind, what Francois logo is saying and behind what Rachel Notley is saying first of all Rachel.

Notley Is facing, an election, in her own province next. Spring she's, in tight she absolutely has. To swing for the fences on behalf of her province and her, province, would want her to do that Albertans want her to do that whether she'll be thanked for her troubles is another story for, the goal whether, or not the analysts, or or the or the the headline writers told him he was being a dope he's at 59%, approval in, his province, this. Is protein, on the plate for Quebecers and they're eating it up for, Justin Trudeau he's got to find a way to. Again. This this comes back to demonstrating. That he can get big projects, built and he can get this pipeline built and it's not about, an Alberta, versus Quebec construct, this will have an impact on how people see, him across the country, if he's seen as no good at dealing with the provinces, or handling, the premiers or being able to accomplish, a major, project. Is going, to be problematic, for him and when you look at where population. Growth is in, this country it is happening, in Western, Canada this is a much, bigger, vote, based on a much more influential, vote, base than it was at the time of his father or in the 90s under the time of Christian they can't just assume that they can write off the west and still, win in 2019. Well that's sort of what it's about though Andrew isn't it it's not about it's. Not really even about the pipeline or not I mean it is but it's also about how Trudeau manages, the situation, and whether there is problems, with unity and how he deals, with that and whether you show. Respect that's part of it in any question, of politics as do people feel like you understand, the problems and respect them to. Make this very difficult straddle, that he's been attempting, of being both for carbon pricing and for pipelines people have to believe you mean both of them and certainly, on the pipeline, energy, side I guess I'll put this way if Stephen Harper was more convincing as an environmentalist, than than Justin Trudeau as an oil and gas booster people, have come to the conclusion it just really doesn't fundamentally, mean it where. It really gets toxic, for him is however is that I think, increasingly people aren't sure whether he means it on the environmental, side either that we are so far short of our, targets, or targets which they basically borrowed from the harper government and. That people look at the carbon pricing initiative that they've done they say well it's, irritating it's in your face and it's still not actually going to we're gonna achieve what it claims to set out and so, you wind up in a situation where nobody's really trusting you and I think that's reflected in some of the numbers that he's posting these days okay, so I only have about a minute left but Paul how damaging, is that then what what what Andrews laid out there well. I, haven't, heard a lot of people lauding, the Prime Minister's credibility, on big issues lately I mean when he comes out at one, of these news conferences and sort of lays on the honey tones I. Hear. From more and more people including people, who are normally, Liberal sympathizers. People. Across the country the word I hear is platitudes, as, a real bad thing when people hear. You talking, and and you sound like the trombone in a Charlie Brown cartoon wow. That's. Not really an. Encouraging. Tone. For, a prime ministry to take you're, only saying that because I sent out a gif about Charlie Brown's Christmas earlier, today, it's Chachi you get the last 30 seconds what, can he do then to signal, that he is listening. That he is that. He's not doing the Charlie Brown voice that he cares the. The only path forward for him again and to how to the extent that this is in his control yeah people, would argue about that get the pipeline finished, it will take down the, temperature, on carbon, pricing, at the same time and it will do a lot for his political fortunes, going, into this next election at a time where we're starting to see centrist.

Liberal Voters drift, to the Conservatives, let's see if they can lock in and convert those voters and drift, to the don't know column, there's a lot of drift going on a lot of dissipation, of that vote he's got to find a way to coalesce it and bring it back okay. Interesting, conversation. Everybody thank you I appreciate it before we go be sure to subscribe to at issue the podcast for extra content you'll, be able to hear all that again that's, super smart talk again but we're also talking about again, how, Canada is handling its ongoing dispute with China because that's the issue that won't die either look for it on iTunes any major podcast, app our website cbc news dot CA / the national. And. Up, next on the national as the, UK struggles, to leave the European Union why, some scientists, say they, have no, choice but, to leave the UK first, though as we approach, the end of the year we are taking a closer look at some of the most powerful moments, we've witnessed taking, you behind the lens to hear the people who captured them tonight. It's an image from our reporting, in Puerto Rico, one year after Hurricane, Maria. You. Know something. Is gonna happen because you've been attentive to everything in front of you and that's how I get the shots. We, had one, shoot and building, they've collected over a thousand, shoes of, people, that died in hurricane. And he, collected, them they had a museum but they wanted to establish a building, that will be permanent, right this, house he had boarded, it up because. It's not official, yet right, there's no ventilation, right. On a hot. Day I couldn't, see it through the viewfinder there's so much sweat more, of them has messages, that you're rolling because he's not stopping, he doesn't feel as he this is his life on daily base he's trying to show us what. People went through because. I think we, needed, that your job as the Camerons like to, reveal, as much as you can and let the viewer decide, I want to bring the viewer deep. Inside there as much as I can, right I want him to feel the heat I want him to feel the hunger right that's what you. Cannot get emotional, stories. Like this it just comes out you. Gotta be there for the moment you get a catch because you'll never get this moment again.

I. Cannot. Believe. This. Is here. A. European. Boy band is singing from the heart asking. Britain to reconsider, its EU breakup, had a rocky start ups, and downs, but. You didn't have a fair choice you. Were misinformed the woman behind the group says a boyband is a quote, nuclear. Weapon, against, propaganda, but, do the Bruneian, boys really have the right moves it, hasn't been easy, to. You know make you feel unique. But. Together, we're. Greater. Present. Come back to. Us can. We make you, change. Your. But. Sentiment, doesn't mean much in the face of hard facts, in just over three months Britain is set to leave the EU and putting. Music aside somewhere it means stepping back from the world of global, science, the, CBC is tamas dagwon met some of the researchers, jumping, ship, I. Feel. Really interested to see the results from this, is the kind of work that saves, lives, advanced. Cancer, research. Supervised. By Emma Bell but, only for now she's. Taking her PhD and, her expertise, to Toronto, because, of brexit, I'm really upset to be moving, but I think it's necessary. It, definitely is a nightmare. The problem is the uncertainty, like, that's the worst bit if we knew, what we could expect we could plan for it. For. Instance she worries about DNA. Samples, destined, for analysis in Germany. We. Need to be delivered across borders, pronto. We know that there's going to be a lot of delay, a lot of fuss, we. Don't know how long that's going to last, whether. At Imperial, College London or, elsewhere. There's concern, UK, innovation. Will be crippled, the. First ever text, message was sent here British, technology. Helped the feel a lander reach a comet and who, can forget dolly, the Scottish sheep the, world's first to be cloned what's, important, for science, you know it's really important for the country Nobel, laureate, Venki, Ramakrishnan. And 34. Other esteemed, scientists. Co-signed. A letter to, the British prime minister underlining. The importance, of British, EU, cooperation. Creating. New barriers, they wrote will inhibit, progress to, the detriment, of us all the. Risk is that we. Will not be perceived, as a go-to place, for science, most. EU nationals, at this sprawling, Research, Centre say they're less likely to, stay after brexit. Among. Them yes, means Sauron from Germany whose job in London is funded, by the EU, I took, it quite personal, at a time this vote against that you because I am an EU, citizen and I'm here because of the EU and, so many of my friends are at.

Imperial, College Emma. Bell is rushing, to finish a research paper in a month after. That it's off to Toronto's, Princess, Margaret, Cancer Centre, a big, gain for Canada, sure but it signals even bigger trouble for, Britain Thomas. Dag CBC, News London. Okay. Our moment of the day's just ahead and what a moment it was a remote first nation, moving away from diesel, generators, and for, the first time getting clean reliable, electricity. We're, here to celebrate with the people it's just so wonderful. It's a historical. It's. A reassurance, for other appreciations, that we are going to build this line up north will. Show you the moment when the lights came, on but, first. In. Case you missed it if, you've ever dreamt of combining, the speed of alpine skiing the, rhythm, of cross country. The. Classic, Canadian smell, of snowmobile, exhaust all that become a kind of human skin do well. Too late, somebody's beaten to do it this. Is the skeezy, woods runner created, by Jim made mint who first. Had the idea years, ago in happy, valley-goose Bay Labrador, if. There, was only a way they'll. Have motorized. Skis it would be it. Was be as good, as. Anti-gravity. To me so I started with an electric motor and a few batteries and a couple of BMX, wheels have chains on I'm inspired, it worked I could use it it just wasn't enough, so. He tinkered with it honed it and nearly a dozen, versions, later with its four-stroke. Gasoline, engine they, can shoot you up the slope as easily as a chairlift, but way, more fun. And, on flat terrain, it, can hit 40 kilometres, an hour, now. It's, not in stores but Jim's, taking pre-orders, online, the, price tag just under. $5,000. Ah only. 100 sent me something sweet cuz he's on the road isn't he the best I. Know you're thinking don't worry I'm. Gonna share this with my two favorite guys cool thanks. I'm. So sorry totally. Fine. Today. Marked a powerful, turning, point for a remote community in northwestern, Ontario for years pecans acum first nation got its power from diesel. Generators, but they can breakdown not to mention they're noisy and smelly, so, today are really, important, first they've been connected to the provincial power, grid, it means the 2500, or so people who live there will have access to clean, reliable electricity, and the.

Moment, They flip the switch just as night was falling is, our moment of the day. It. Is now officially. Powered. By the, provincial grid our, diesel generator, is now shut down and. Hopefully. We'll never have to go. Back or resort, to using old, diesel generators. And then. The, moment of truth. And. You know I'll just add to that what you know what is a pretty beautiful moment that that the tree lighting is more than just symbolic I mean, it is a luxury, that that community, has has, not been able to afford because when you rely on diesel. For power in a place by the way that has no road access, electricity. Is very much a finite. Precious. Resource, and I suppose one that they can afford, to spend a little more of yeah, but, still I mean lots, of symbolism, there the the, lighting. Of the Christmas tree such, an important milestone for that community, and as we know more than just the Christmas tree they, have what is 400, homes that they need to have built they're a severe, housing shortage and, because of the lack of enough. Electricity, they haven't been able to build them until, now kind, of makes me feel badly, about all the things on my Christmas list when their communities, that are still just, hoping for clean, reliable, electricity. Fair, enough that is the national for December the 20th good, night.

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